All Lives Matter

[DJ NOBO]

Last year my daughter worked at a large independently owned shop on New Church Road, Hove. When they advertised a job vacancy last year, the manageress made no secret of the fact that she binned any applications received with black/African sounding names on sight, not even bothering to read them. The shop staff were all white. It’s that kind of despicable ‘invisible’ racism on our doorstep that people of colour are up against every single day. Sickening and depressing.

That’s terrible. I wasn’t suggesting otherwise.

 

[Eeyore]

IF folk can't understand why 'all lives matter' is the wrong response then it is simply explained.

It's called context. All lives do matter. But if the statement is used after someone says 'black lives matter' then it is used as a counter argument.

An if you look at the traits of those who use it my point is underlined.

 

[Taybha]

Last year my daughter worked at a large independently owned shop on New Church Road, Hove. When they advertised a job vacancy last year, the manageress made no secret of the fact that she binned any applications received with black/African sounding names on sight, not even bothering to read them. The shop staff were all white. It’s that kind of despicable ‘invisible’ racism on our doorstep that people of colour are up against every single day. Sickening and depressing.

Interesting , I applied for a job as a grounds man on a local golf course to me on 3 separate occasions, never had a reply , I go by a alias on Facebook and regularly comment on the golf clubs group page so I'm virtually well known on it .

In February this year the club flooded and I went up to see if I could help out , I did a few bits got to know the assistant manager , got chatting about the greens ect and he said blimey we could of done with you last spring , when I told him I applied 3 times he looked puzzled and explained he vetted all the applications and couldn't remember getting mine , when I told him my real surname which is a little unusual he just blurted out , oh that's why I binned it , I just thought you were a student at the University or something!

FFS he didn't even bother looking at my age , I'm not sure that's actually racist but more a subconscious trigger of past bad experiences with Uni Students but its disappointing and I expressed my disappointment to him and he apologised.

My take on it was just piss poor management rather than racism but it did make me think how many people get their applications binned because their surnames don't look "BRITISH " enough .

Anyway their loss the greens are still shyte

 

[Hugo Rune]

If you want to pedant the crap out of it and say what about ISIS terrorists, do their lives matter ask yourself if Black ISIS terrorist lives matter........the answer is the same.
If you think there are different answers you are part of the problem.

No. If you want to pedant the crap out of ‘Black Lives Matters’ with the response ‘All Lives Matter’, you are really missing the point and in doing so, feeding the insidious beast of white privilege and demonstrating that protest and revolutionary change is needed.

I’m sure you’re not, but you can come across as a bit of a closet racist by trying to pedant the crap out of ‘ Black Lives Matters’.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

"All lives matter" has become a racist dog whistle

 

[Bakero]

Interesting , I applied for a job as a grounds man on a local golf course to me on 3 separate occasions, never had a reply , I go by a alias on Facebook and regularly comment on the golf clubs group page so I'm virtually well known on it .

In February this year the club flooded and I went up to see if I could help out , I did a few bits got to know the assistant manager , got chatting about the greens ect and he said blimey we could of done with you last spring , when I told him I applied 3 times he looked puzzled and explained he vetted all the applications and couldn't remember getting mine , when I told him my real surname which is a little unusual he just blurted out , oh that's why I binned it , I just thought you were a student at the University or something!

FFS he didn't even bother looking at my age , I'm not sure that's actually racist but more a subconscious trigger of past bad experiences with Uni Students but its disappointing and I expressed my disappointment to him and he apologised.

My take on it was just piss poor management rather than racism but it did make me think how many people get their applications binned because their surnames don't look "BRITISH " enough .

Anyway their loss the greens are still shyte

Binning applications based on names certainly seems discriminatory. Boggles the mind that shit like this goes on.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

All I care about is that any planned marches today don't result in the R number going up. We have lost enough people over the last few months, so in this case All Lives Matter.

 

[Justice]

All I care about is that any planned marches today don't result in the R number going up. We have lost enough people over the last few months, so in this case All Lives Matter.

That shipped sailed when morons packed the beaches last weekend. White middle class clapping on a Thursday and then taking Harriot & Freddie to the seaside. At least there is a point to the protests.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Two analogies I read recently seem appropriate.
One was from the U.K. firefighters.
A house in a street is on fire, and an engine turns up to fight the fire. Other house owners come into the street to say, all houses matter.
The other is someone at a child’s funeral is delivering the eulogy, saying the child was special and loved, but someone rushes forward in the crematorium to shout, all children are special and loved.

This.

And end of stupid thread.

 

[Frankie]

Binning applications based on names certainly seems discriminatory. Boggles the mind that shit like this goes on.

Indeed , but highly likely it's not a rarity .

 

[Justice]

Binning applications based on names certainly seems discriminatory. Boggles the mind that shit like this goes on.

One of my best ever employee’s was a Black man went above and beyond, customers started to request him after a while as he was very good at this job. All those in the Police, in recruitment, business owners is not be a sheep. When you look at Policing there always seems to be a ring leader in the unpleasant situations, stand up against that ring leader who is also probably a bully. As individuals we can make the biggest change than a protest ever can.

 

[AlastairWatts]

Last year my daughter worked at a large independently owned shop on New Church Road, Hove. When they advertised a job vacancy last year, the manageress made no secret of the fact that she binned any applications received with black/African sounding names on sight, not even bothering to read them. The shop staff were all white. It’s that kind of despicable ‘invisible’ racism on our doorstep that people of colour are up against every single day. Sickening and depressing.

There's another side to this, though. I have an annual appointment with a specialised nurse (who also treats 'ordinary' patients) to deal with my COPD. Last time I went I found the nurse, a pleasant hepful and caring (white) woman approaching 50 who's worked all her life in the NHS, in tears. She'd just seen a patient suffering from a heavy cold who'd demanded antibiotics. When it was pointed out to the patient that they wouldn't work and weren't necessary the young black patient accused the nurse of racism in an aggressive and unpleasant way. Apparently she had to be asked to leave the surgery. Nothing could be further from the truth with the nurse or indeed any of the doctors and other nurses there. My own GP is a migrant from India and a practising muslim, as are two of the other five doctors. The rest of the nurses there come from all over.

It works both ways.. And the answer is not, I suggest, causing problems in city centres. Surely its education? And example - black players in, for example, cricket and football, have made enormous strides in gaining acceptance. Remember how Joffra Archer was cheered last year?

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

As you well know (as demonstrated by Mr Cummings many times), slogans have a maximum of three words before they lose they potency.

Good point. What if it's sold as a sequel? Black Lives Matter 2?

Nah. To these ears that would sound pleading and apologetic. Black Lives Matter is powerful because it is polemical, and the fact that it is open to interpretation makes it a more discussion-provoking statement. People who believe that BLM means that Black lives matter more than other lives are having a dense moment, and/or, are ignorant about history. People who disingenuously say they believe BLM means this are usually those that entertain a racist idea or two.

Plus, the chant wouldn't be as good.

Yes. Adding a too would make it very clear who the racists are. Nowhere for them to hide.

 

[Acker79]

https://youtu.be/W171n_v4ZAs

 

[BN41Albion]

Last year my daughter worked at a large independently owned shop on New Church Road, Hove. When they advertised a job vacancy last year, the manageress made no secret of the fact that she binned any applications received with black/African sounding names on sight, not even bothering to read them. The shop staff were all white. It’s that kind of despicable ‘invisible’ racism on our doorstep that people of colour are up against every single day. Sickening and depressing.

Would be good to know the shop so we can make sure to avoid it in future! That's disgusting

 

[daveinplzen]

I used to live in Cavendish Place and a black friend passed by for a cup of tea as he had just been to view a flat in Oriental Place that he had rung about an hour earlier and invited to view. Woman answered the door and told him it was taken. Me being me, said come, lets try again. He stayed out of sight, and I rang door and said I had heard about the available flat. By some miracle it was available, shouted to mate and told him he must have been mistaken. She saw him, went bright red and slammed the door in my face

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

There's another side to this, though. I have an annual appointment with a specialised nurse (who also treats 'ordinary' patients) to deal with my COPD. Last time I went I found the nurse, a pleasant hepful and caring (white) woman approaching 50 who's worked all her life in the NHS, in tears. She'd just seen a patient suffering from a heavy cold who'd demanded antibiotics. When it was pointed out to the patient that they wouldn't work and weren't necessary the young black patient accused the nurse of racism in an aggressive and unpleasant way. Apparently she had to be asked to leave the surgery. Nothing could be further from the truth with the nurse or indeed any of the doctors and other nurses there. My own GP is a migrant from India and a practising muslim, as are two of the other five doctors. The rest of the nurses there come from all over.

It works both ways.. And the answer is not, I suggest, causing problems in city centres. Surely its education? And example - black players in, for example, cricket and football, have made enormous strides in gaining acceptance. Remember how Joffra Archer was cheered last year?

That's the problem. 'They' are required to be accepted by 'us'.

And the rest of your post is whataboutery.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

What the media decides to run with controls the entire populations focus.

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[Da Man Clay]

All lives can’t matter until black lives matter.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

FFS he didn't even bother looking at my age , I'm not sure that's actually racist but more a subconscious trigger of past bad experiences with Uni Students but its disappointing and I expressed my disappointment to him and he apologised.

You put your age on a CV [or job application]

Racist and ageist if they binned it !!