[Albion] Alireza Jahanbakhsh

[Stat Brother]

Funny you mention Man City as they play inverted wingers as well but they don’t seem to be having any issues starting their moves on the less ‘dominant foot’

YouTube videos from a league that is nowhere near the standard of the premier league is also not an indication he can cut it at this level. The top players shine or show glimpses wherever they play. That’s not to say Ali is not going to work out I hope it does for him and us and there is a top player in there but we have not really seen anything to suggest that so far.

In any of the 9 (games) he's started over the entirety of this season.

 

[Seasider78]

In any of the 9 (games) he's started over the entirety of this season.

Not writing him off at all he may come good but we can only comment on what we have seen in those games and it has not been great has it. Nine games at this level is enough to show glimpses of what you offer but for whatever reason it’s not happening for him so far. Will still be cheering him on and hoping he turns it around but it would be nice to see a performance from him that shows us what he is about and makes us all positive about our record signing.

 

[Seagull27]

He's posted a long rant about something on Instagram, couldn't tell you what it's about though, the translation doesn't help much...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwAgro3BVtX

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

In any of the 9 (games) he's started over the entirety of this season.

Would you give teams a nine game start in a season?

What is a ‘reasonable’ amount of games in everyone’s opinion?

I would say at game 5, you are getting an idea, but then didn’t Bergkamp (Dennis [emoji23]) take half the season to ‘bed-in’ at Arsenal prior to excelling?

I do agree that players need a chance, and you will see on my posts, that I am very much ‘fence’ on AJ and Locadia. At the moment I don’t think either look great VFM, but AJ probably needs a pre-season.



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[Stat Brother]

Why does there have to be a set amount of games to 'prove his worth'?
Why are all players deemed to be the same?

And most importantly

Why are Albion fans so desperate to write off one of their own players?


All this 'hopefully there's a good player in there somewhere', 'I still support him but', 'best game for us but that's not saying much' is utter guff.

It does and will transfer into Saturday as the Solly March effect testifies.

I can only assume I'm the only person here who when starting a new job needs to be shown the ropes, needs time to understand the intricacies of my new colleagues, develop my skills into the new role.
I'm just grateful when I'm in that position I don't have 11 fellas trying to stop me and seemingly the best part of 30,000 people hoping I'll fail.
I assume everyone on here just turns up and is instantly running the company.

This frankly pathetic need to be first right and jump on every 'not even a footballer' bandwagon that rolls past so as to be one of the cool kids is shameful.

More worrying still is this keeps happening, posters words are made to look moronic and yet they queue up to do it all over again


Peace out

 

[Hastings gull]

Apparently did 2 shocking dives during the game Saturday. Due to beer and being away from the pitch didn’t notice them on the day.

I didn't really notice our players diving a lot, yet on the Man City forum, they were talking about Albion's players doing precisely that and that they should hang their heads in shame. But that might be because of bias, I suppose.

 

[Stat Brother]

I didn't really notice our players diving a lot, yet on the Man City forum, they were talking about Albion's players doing precisely that and that they should hang their heads in shame. But that might be because of bias, I suppose.

Hindsight would suggest our gameplan was:-

Stifle City.
Win dead ball situations
Hope Dunk 'n' Duffy score.

The fact that Ali carried out this plan to perfection, getting both full backs booked (one should have been red) and plenty of dead ball situations created, would suggest he did exactly what his manager asked of him.

Sadly the nimrods on this thread don't agree.

 

[Bakero]

I didn't really notice our players diving a lot, yet on the Man City forum, they were talking about Albion's players doing precisely that and that they should hang their heads in shame. But that might be because of bias, I suppose.

Ali J was guilty of at least 2 dives.

 

[NooBHA]

I think he’s not getting a fair shake from you and others. I know he broke the transfer record for BHA but you guys act like you’re Man City and just spent 50mil on a World Cup Champion. I’m not here to simply defend him.. I thought BHA football and AJ were not a good match from even before he signed because of the lumbering, somewhat messy and cautiously defensive style of football BHA play. I have been watching AJ play in a very similarly-playing Iranian national team, where he really does not shine, and that is why the move to Brighton was so unusual to me.

It’s not a pathetic comparison. A winger needs to play on his dominant side. A winger’s first move MUST be with the confidence of the dominant foot. How are you expecting a right winger to make it down the left flank when he is a right winger? Or cross it in?? It’s like some of you have never played football seriously before!

I’m not even disappointed in you, you don’t get paid to do this, I’m disappointed in the recruiting team and managerial team. It takes a 5 minute YouTube review of his goals last year to see why he is not doing well in a completely different position.

I could blow your final paragraph out of the water in seconds based on the fact that AJ and AK had the freedom to swap wings at any time they wanted during the match v Man City and they did swap occasionally. AJ is getting a fair crack of the whip from the Management. He is a super player but don't expect him to get the freedom he got in Holland. The defenders in the PL are of a higher quality than he came up against there

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Why does there have to be a set amount of games to 'prove his worth'?

There isn't. But to suggest that 20-odd appearances isn't enough for people to start forming opinions, is just plain weird. Scores of past players have had entire Albion careers with less appearances than that. I presume that you never formed a definitive opinion on whether you rated Sergei Gotsmanov, Leon Best, Graeme Smith or Gary Gardner?

Why are Albion fans so desperate to write off one of their own players?

This is such complete bullshit, and really quite a nasty thing to level at your fellow supporters, all of whom want every Albion player to ultimately succeed. Above that, though, they all want the CLUB to succeed - and if they think that the likelihood of an individual player positively contributing to that success, is slim, they are perfectly entitled to that opinion. Its pretty arrogant of you to decree it otherwise, frankly.

All this 'hopefully there's a good player in there somewhere', 'I still support him but', 'best game for us but that's not saying much' is utter guff.

Nothing wrong in any one of those statements / opinions.

seemingly the best part of 30,000 people hoping I'll fail.

What a thoroughly ridiculous claim.



Seriously - we get your standpoint - you're sticking up for the player, against what you perceive as unfair criticism. Hell, I do exactly the same thing when its Solly March being targeted. But you're attacking people for perfectly valid stand-points, rather than nasty or personal attacks, and it is not a good look.

Peace.

 

[macbeth]

I think he’s not getting a fair shake from you and others. I know he broke the transfer record for BHA but you guys act like you’re Man City and just spent 50mil on a World Cup Champion. I’m not here to simply defend him.. I thought BHA football and AJ were not a good match from even before he signed because of the lumbering, somewhat messy and cautiously defensive style of football BHA play. I have been watching AJ play in a very similarly-playing Iranian national team, where he really does not shine, and that is why the move to Brighton was so unusual to me.

It’s not a pathetic comparison. A winger needs to play on his dominant side. A winger’s first move MUST be with the confidence of the dominant foot. How are you expecting a right winger to make it down the left flank when he is a right winger? Or cross it in?? It’s like some of you have never played football seriously before!

I’m not even disappointed in you, you don’t get paid to do this, I’m disappointed in the recruiting team and managerial team. It takes a 5 minute YouTube review of his goals last year to see why he is not doing well in a completely different position.

Now you've gone and done it...

No, in all seriousness I think you have a fair point. We've had this kind of trouble before, with CMS and Baldock, two other expensive ( for where we were at the time) strikers, it had been suggested multiple times that we weren't playing to their strengths. However regardless of where we played him, I had hoped for a little more. If you watch us for a full 90 minutes, you'll see that Ali J, despite being listed as a left winger, often switches sides with knockaert and will play for 10 minutes on the right. I know that isn't enough time to have an impact, but hopefully the management can see that he's a little brighter. However, I would also point out that this happened last year (sort of), where we brought Pascal Groß in, who played in Germany as a CM, but we played him behind the striker, and he ended up being our player of the season. So it isn't unreasonable to expect a big signing to be able to adapt, though I think we need to play better to Ali j's strengths. I would also point out that he doesn't seem to quite be mentally up to the place of the league, or physically the strength of the league. That would be evident whether he's playing on the right, left or in goal. He needs to be a lot less casual in his all round play and spend the summer in the gym bulking up. With regards to our football, I have to say I agree, and the football we were playing was a lot better last season ( see Izquierdo's goal away at Stoke). I think a large part of this has been caused by player's adjusting to the sudden formation change halfway through the season. It can only get better from here. However it does beg the question why other players are capable of performing in that system but Ali J, a 17 million quid player, isn't. Even if he wasn't playing to the best of his ability, I would still like to have seen him beat his man at least once since signing . With regards to next season, a bad run of form for Knockaert or March is never far away (followed immediately by 50 threads on here), so at some point I would like to see Izquierdo (who's played on the left since signing) and Ali J as our wingers. I still belive that would be the best combo, and we would see some of Ali J's talent at last. I think we'll be able to tell a lot more this time next year, and I certainly am not worrying, I think both the management and Ali J are just figuring each other out at the minute.

 

[Stat Brother]

There isn't. But to suggest that 20-od appearances isn't enough for people to start forming opinions, is just plain weird. Scores of past players have had entire Albion careers with less appearances than that. I presume that you never formed a definitive opinion on whether you rated Sergei Gotsmanov, Leon Best, Graeme Smith or Gary Gardner?



This is such complete bullshit, and really quite a nasty thing to level at your fellow supporters, all of whom want every Albion player to ultimately succeed. Above that, though, they all want the CLUB to succeed - and if they think that the likelihood of an individual player positively contributing to that success, is slim, they are perfectly entitled to that opinion. Its pretty arrogant of you to decree it otherwise, frankly.



Nothing wrong in any one of those statements / opinions.



What a thoroughly ridiculous claim.



Seriously - we get your standpoint - you're sticking up for the player, against what you perceive as unfair criticism. Hell, I do exactly the same thing when its Solly March being targeted. But you're attacking people for perfectly valid stand-points, rather than nasty or personal attacks, and it is not a good look.

Peace.

I have no idea why I have woken up in such a foul mood.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Why does there have to be a set amount of games to 'prove his worth'?
Why are all players deemed to be the same?

And most importantly

Why are Albion fans so desperate to write off one of their own players?


All this 'hopefully there's a good player in there somewhere', 'I still support him but', 'best game for us but that's not saying much' is utter guff.

It does and will transfer into Saturday as the Solly March effect testifies.

I can only assume I'm the only person here who when starting a new job needs to be shown the ropes, needs time to understand the intricacies of my new colleagues, develop my skills into the new role.
I'm just grateful when I'm in that position I don't have 11 fellas trying to stop me and seemingly the best part of 30,000 people hoping I'll fail.
I assume everyone on here just turns up and is instantly running the company.

This frankly pathetic need to be first right and jump on every 'not even a footballer' bandwagon that rolls past so as to be one of the cool kids is shameful.

More worrying still is this keeps happening, posters words are made to look moronic and yet they queue up to do it all over again


Peace out

Picking up your points

Nobody is desperate to write anyone off, it’s a discussion site. The discussion is the merits of a player.

It’s not ‘utter guff’ because as supporters we hope our team succeeds, so hopefully a player comes good, but as football is a results business, at some point you make a decision. Of course, perhaps we should still have Calderon and Gary Dicker, they were nice chaps after all and might eventually might turn into PL players, same with Manu.

In terms of a new job, the phrase ‘hit the ground running’ has never been applied to you then?

30000 hoping they fail? Just bit of a silly statement really, I don’t care how we win as long as we win.

Disappointing, as I thought you’d have a discussion rather than hide behind people wanting our own team to fail......


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[Mackenzie]

Thought he displayed a lot of class by not feigning injury to the Walker headbutt, unlike that palace shithouse.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Thought he displayed a lot of class by not feigning injury to the Walker headbutt, unlike that palace shithouse.

He certainly did - and was very badly let down by the match officials. Basically they proved that you DO have to overplay such things, to 'help' the referee.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I think he’s not getting a fair shake from you and others. I know he broke the transfer record for BHA but you guys act like you’re Man City and just spent 50mil on a World Cup Champion. I’m not here to simply defend him.. I thought BHA football and AJ were not a good match from even before he signed because of the lumbering, somewhat messy and cautiously defensive style of football BHA play. I have been watching AJ play in a very similarly-playing Iranian national team, where he really does not shine, and that is why the move to Brighton was so unusual to me.

It’s not a pathetic comparison. A winger needs to play on his dominant side. A winger’s first move MUST be with the confidence of the dominant foot. How are you expecting a right winger to make it down the left flank when he is a right winger? Or cross it in?? It’s like some of you have never played football seriously before!

I’m not even disappointed in you, you don’t get paid to do this, I’m disappointed in the recruiting team and managerial team. It takes a 5 minute YouTube review of his goals last year to see why he is not doing well in a completely different position.

Sorry, this isn't going to sit well but I'm here to tell you that professional footballers should be able to use both feet, that we have played inverted wingers all the time under CH, that, in any case, they often swap, that it didn't hinder Izquierdo last season whose injury is the only reason Ali J is playing anyway. that Dutch League football is of appalling quality, that Asian international football is no better, and that your man doesn't currently have the pace or strength for the Premier League.

Despite all those shortcomings I think he's played as well as he possibly can recently, has decent technique and is a fairly good squad player. He's never going to be the God you want him to be though.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Sorry, this isn't going to sit well but I'm here to tell you that professional footballers should be able to use both feet, that we have played inverted wingers all the time under CH, that, in any case, they often swap, that it didn't hinder Izquierdo last season whose injury is the only reason Ali J is playing anyway. that Dutch League football is of appalling quality, that Asian international football is no better, and that your man doesn't currently have the pace or strength for the Premier League.

Despite all those shortcomings I think he's played as well as he possibly can recently, has decent technique and is a fairly good squad player. He's never going to be the God you want him to be though.

Ouch.

(all spot all)

 

[sydney]

He certainly did - and was very badly let down by the match officials. Basically they proved that you DO have to overplay such things, to 'help' the referee.

yep......shithouse but true....!!

 

[sydney]

Sorry, this isn't going to sit well but I'm here to tell you that professional footballers should be able to use both feet, that we have played inverted wingers all the time under CH, that, in any case, they often swap, that it didn't hinder Izquierdo last season whose injury is the only reason Ali J is playing anyway. that Dutch League football is of appalling quality, that Asian international football is no better, and that your man doesn't currently have the pace or strength for the Premier League.

Despite all those shortcomings I think he's played as well as he possibly can recently, has decent technique and is a fairly good squad player. He's never going to be the God you want him to be though.

from what i've seen on the box so far .....he isn't good enough , i really hope he can grow into the league like numerous others before him .

 

[NooBHA]

Ali J was guilty of at least 2 dives.

I didn't notice it with Ali - Glenn fell over every time he felt a shadow on his back.

However, I care not one jot what the City fans think. Our aim was to get ourselves further up the pitch. Draw a few free kicks and corners and try and exploit that since we have had decent success this season from set pieces.

We weren't there on Saturday to tickle the ears of Man City fans, TV Pundits, Pep Guardiola or Match day Sponsors. We were there to try and give Brighton and Brighton fans the best chance of reaching the Final and it just might have worked if that chance hadn't been cleared off the line or if Kyle Walker had been rightly sent off