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[Albion] Alireza Jahanbakhsh



Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
I thought he was absolutely shitehouse tonight.

We was so robbed, if that player is worth £17m then so am I.
This will probably be true - he has been ordinary in virtually every game. Huddersfield stands out as an exception, but at this stage he's been a proper flat track bully. Starts tonight, so we will see.
 




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The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
I’ve said this before, I’ll say it again.

Alireza Jahanbakhsh will not provide good return on investment until three things happen:

1) He plays at the position that he has played for the previous decade of his life. He is a RIGHT winger. People think you can just substitute wing?? It’s the wrong foot for crying out loud! You can see how badly he wants to play on the right and every time he goes to the right by circumstance he tries to get Knocky to stay on the left but Knocky moans like a baby and throws a fit and switches back.

2) He plays with more fluid players. That means Andone instead of Murray. Murray scores goals but he is a big mass that doesn’t move much and waits for delivered balls. That is not ARJB’s style of play at ALL, and if anyone in the recruiting department had watched his tapes from AZ Alkmaar they would know this.

3) He is given one off season to bulk up and mesh with his teammates. It happened at NEC. It happened at Alkmaar. It will happen at Brighton. He does not shine his first season.

Alireza is not lazy. He is not weak. He is not slow. And he is not careless. He is a proud player who worked his way from a dusty and resource-less amateur league to being the top scorer of arguably the best of Europe’s smaller leagues, and he just won’t flourish out of position. If Chris and the rest of the management team continue to force him into an unnatural position they will not get anything out of him.

lol THANK YOU! finally someone with some logic that's not letting their emotions get the best of them. he is a RIGHT WINGER. you cannot put him on the left and expect him to flourish.
I cant wait for the day that Izzy gets back into the starting 11 and we put JB on the right and Izzy on the left. THEN you guys will see the player that we paid 17 mil for. Be patient.

He had a (brief) chance on the right tonight. Nope - still absolutely ineffectual. What an utter waste of money.

Genuinely, a full back playing out of position, in Bernardo, looked more threatening when he replaced him.

Recruitment team have had an absolute shocker :nono:
 


Trelford Mills Guide Dog

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Jun 14, 2008
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He had a (brief) chance on the right tonight. Nope - still absolutely ineffectual. What an utter waste of money.

Genuinely, a full back playing out of position, in Bernardo, looked more threatening when he replaced him.

Recruitment team have had an absolute shocker :nono:

He played one awesome cross field ball to March in the first half, but other than that was pretty ineffectual.
Defensively poor too. A bit like Locadia, he doesn’t seem to understand his role when we don’t have the ball.
 


Kman

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Mar 30, 2019
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He played one awesome cross field ball to March in the first half, but other than that was pretty ineffectual.
Defensively poor too. A bit like Locadia, he doesn’t seem to understand his role when we don’t have the ball.

Defensively poor? Cmon now he alongside Bruno had Hazard and Emerson locked down while Knocky was beat time after time. March and Aj are the better defending wingers and thats not even up for debate.
 


Bladders

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Jun 22, 2012
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The Troubadour
I feel sorry for the guy , Hughton has managed to turn a young exciting top scoring right winger into a glorified left back .


Well done Chris . Top development work of a young player


I bet that wasn’t how our recruiting team sold the club to him .




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SollysLeftFoot

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Mar 17, 2019
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Bitchin' in Hitchin
I feel sorry for the guy , Hughton has managed to turn a young exciting top scoring right winger into a glorified left back .


Well done Chris . Top development work of a young player


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That's what we get, the problem here is that with Hughton we have stability but no excitement whatsoever.

A part of me wants relegation again to play how we did when we got promoted. But the finance professional in me wants to stay up because of the riches.

Dilemma I'm sure Bloom is also pondering. Our woeful football won't be unnoticed
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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That's what we get, the problem here is that with Hughton we have stability but no excitement whatsoever.

A part of me wants relegation again to play how we did when we got promoted. But the finance professional in me wants to stay up because of the riches.

Dilemma I'm sure Bloom is also pondering. Our woeful football won't be unnoticed

Our woeful football will go unnoticed because we are in a subdivision of 12 teams who all play woeful football.

If we get relegated the club will never get back to the Premier League, so we might as well suck it up in the hope everything can gel like it did way back in dim and distant 2018.
 


One Teddy Maybank

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Aug 4, 2006
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He played one awesome cross field ball to March in the first half, but other than that was pretty ineffectual.
Defensively poor too. A bit like Locadia, he doesn’t seem to understand his role when we don’t have the ball.

Spot on.
Positionally, he is woeful, he switched off so many times vs Southampton it was embarrassing.

Last night he was lucky to have Bruno behind him, who probably talked him through it. (the same as he does with Knockaert).

Hazard didn’t come in-field in the second half for no reason.....

Incidentally, Hazard is world class as potentially is Hudson-Odoi - none of our players are.....


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Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Spot on.
Positionally, he is woeful, he switched off so many times vs Southampton it was embarrassing.

Last night he was lucky to have Bruno behind him, who probably talked him through it. (the same as he does with Knockaert).

Hazard didn’t come in-field in the second half for no reason.....

Incidentally, Hazard is world class as potentially is Hudson-Odoi - none of our players are.....


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My heart sank when I saw the Chelsea front three were Hazard, Giroud and Hudon Odoi. I may get exactly the same feeling when I see who is uofront for City.....expecting the same sort of result too but please can we actually show some intent as soon as we go 1 down. I can live with everyone behind the bal, until then :smile:

Oh and I am losing faith in AJ living up to the hype
 


Seasider78

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Nov 14, 2004
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Had a lot of minutes and a good run of games but not shown anything particularly memorable considering what we paid for him. Really hope he turns it around but can’t help but think this is another one of those who shine in a much lower quality division but may be out of their depth in the premier league.

It happens clubs like us are in the hit and miss transfer market aren’t we.
 


One Teddy Maybank

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My heart sank when I saw the Chelsea front three were Hazard, Giroud and Hudon Odoi. I may get exactly the same feeling when I see who is uofront for City.....expecting the same sort of result too but please can we actually show some intent as soon as we go 1 down. I can live with everyone behind the bal, until then :smile:

Oh and I am losing faith in AJ living up to the hype

Oh yes, re City. The movement is majestic, everything we are clueless against.

I was at ground level at The Etihad and just watching Sane was incredible, we have a 3% chance IMO, so let’s go out 4-2 or similar rather than 2-0 with no offensive threat.

I really believe in Hughton, but without Gross we do not get any numbers in the box, so either go 4-4-2, or push Propper up in a 4-4-1-1 and play Bissouma/Kayal/Sanders alongside Stephens.


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Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Defensively poor? Cmon now he alongside Bruno had Hazard and Emerson locked down while Knocky was beat time after time. March and Aj are the better defending wingers and thats not even up for debate.

Against Championship Millwall, AJ was lazy and offered zero support to our LB. Noticed by all including CH, who replaced him.

You’re right about March though.
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Oh yes, re City. The movement is majestic, everything we are clueless against.

I was at ground level at The Etihad and just watching Sane was incredible, we have a 3% chance IMO, so let’s go out 4-2 or similar rather than 2-0 with no offensive threat.

I really believe in Hughton, but without Gross we do not get any numbers in the box, so either go 4-4-2, or push Propper up in a 4-4-1-1 and play Bissouma/Kayal/Sanders alongside Stephens.


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Don’t forget the pressing, the pressing from City is top notch. I was thinking today how we have struggled big time against any team that press us, howver shit they are, and it seems every manager is now wise to that, sadly. City are up there with the best at pressing too :down:
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Don’t forget the pressing, the pressing from City is top notch. I was thinking today how we have struggled big time against any team that press us, howver shit they are, and it seems every manager is now wise to that, sadly. City are up there with the best at pressing too :down:

Great post. Even little old Stains, Burnley and Hudd press us, and we never like it.
 




Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
11,033
I think my patience ran out with him finally last night.

Look, with a signing like that we all want him to do well and not just slag the guy off prematurely if at all.

But just leaving the (for us, huge) investment to one side for a minute, this is the Premier League. As a forward player, you have to justify your place in the team, or even on the bench. You have to show that you can regularly have an impact on a match, and influence a game. He isn't, and he hasn't.

When you add the money into the mix and who else we could have got, it's looking like an uncharacteristically poor bit of recruitment.

His confidence is shot to shit, as a last throw of the dice someone should sit him down and show him videos of all his goals and assists in Holland.
 




nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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Manchester
He's a flat track bully and would probably thrive in the Championship. Assuming we stay up, I wouldn't be surprised if we loaned him out to cut our losses.
 








Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
Chelsea away is the time to judge him, is it? Bravo all, well done. It was a game we had obviously thrown away, the inclusion of Bong made that pretty obvious. Before the end of the season we'll see what he's about, if allowed to continue starting in his natural position. If he's not, then we should apologise to him for wasting his and our time.

3 years worth of scouting to play him out of position and in a role which means he's more a full back than a winger.
 


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