[Albion] Alireza Jahanbakhsh joins Feyenoord

[Superphil]

A five year contract was ridiculous.

Another lesson learnt by the club Board.

Let’s hope they have.

 

[albionalex]

A five year contract was ridiculous.

Another lesson learnt by the club Board.

Not sure what they did wrong by giving a 5 year deal? It's easy to say in hindsight that it was a mistake but if you're signing a player who you think is good enough to be your record signing, it makes sense to lock them in for as long as possible. Was it ridiculous to give Bissouma a five year contract?

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

A five year contract was ridiculous.

Another lesson learnt by the club Board.

It reduces the annual amortization hit on the accounts which is a factor with rules on losses I think.

 

[DJ NOBO]

There are plenty of footballers with inferior performance stats than Ali J who are also on very handsome contracts.
Because of that they are very difficult to move on. You only need to look up the A23 for plenty of evidence of similar cases.

It wouldn't surprise me if Ali J is still in our squad next season. I doubt there are many spare millions to replace players who are already contracted.
Any suggestion of letting him depart on a free transfer and paying up his contract wouldn't make sense if it just leaves us a player short.

If aj left on a free (by mutual consent) it would free up his wages. That money could be used towards signing and paying a player who Potter wanted more. Ideally a player available on a free transfer.
Why does that not make sense?

 

[Weststander]

It reduces the annual amortization hit on the accounts which is a factor with rules on losses I think.

Good point.

But in cashflow/commercial terms, it committed the club to another slug of £2.5m in wages plus employers national insurance.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Good point.

But in cashflow/commercial terms, it committed the club to another slug of £2.5m in wages plus employers national insurance.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that, as a rule of thumb, players wages were often calculated as the transfer fee divided by the number of months of the contract.
So it's possible a shorter contract would have been negotiated at a higher monthly salary.

 

[Acker79]

He has played a part in keeping us in the premier league for a fifth season. With that comes the £x00m for doing so. I would say that makes the money spent on him, at the very least, not wasted and not really deserving of some of the criticism it's receiving.

 

[Acker79]

I seem to recall reading somewhere that, as a rule of thumb, players wages were often calculated as the transfer fee divided by the number of months of the contract.
So it's possible a shorter contract would have been negotiated at a higher monthly salary.

We signed danny welbeck on a free. Does that mean he didn't get any wages?

 

[Is it PotG?]

I sill have great difficulty in considering how some think Ali J is a PL standard player.

Nice chap and all that, but I am not convinced at all that he is up to this level.

He's not alone though, and hopefully plans are afoot to strengthen us throughout over time.

 

[blue-shifted]

I sill have great difficulty in considering how some think Ali J is a PL standard player.

Nice chap and all that, but I am not convinced at all that he is up to this level.

He's not alone though, and hopefully plans are afoot to strengthen us throughout over time.

He is a PL level squad player ... and you need squad players .... as he's played a part in every season we've been in the PL and we're in the PL.

So he clearly is a PL standard player.

It's just that he may not need more quality than he's got off the bench if we ever want to become ensconced in mid table

 

[maresfield seagull]

I sill have great difficulty in considering how some think Ali J is a PL standard player.

Nice chap and all that, but I am not convinced at all that he is up to this level.

He's not alone though, and hopefully plans are afoot to strengthen us throughout over time.

So Who are these players you feel , are not up to the task and need replacing?

 

[Silverhatch]

Clearly a popular bloke and a very good professional. Long-term scouted and signed after our first season in the PL. Was a pre-Ashworth target. Plays for a very different manager now and (probably) club. Hasn't worked for him to any great extent under Chris or GPott. Despite the well-documented narrative that Tony's two clubs are completely separate operations - he should probably go on loan to Union SG and rediscover his goal-scoring form in a league that is much closer to the Eridivisie.

 

[Is it PotG?]

So Who are these players you feel , are not up to the task and need replacing?

So.....

Ali J
Izzy
Tau
I am concerned long-term with Welbeck and Lallana regarding injuries
Maupay and Connolly must give cause for concern.

 

[Springal]

So.....

Ali J
Izzy
Tau
I am concerned long-term with Welbeck and Lallana regarding injuries
Maupay and Connolly must give cause for concern.

So just £100M-£150M then ?

 

[Dorset Seagull]

If aj left on a free (by mutual consent) it would free up his wages. That money could be used towards signing and paying a player who Potter wanted more. Ideally a player available on a free transfer.
Why does that not make sense?

He did state paying up his contract so that wouldnt free up the wages as they will have already been spent

 

[Is it PotG?]

So just £100M-£150M then ?

So.......

A marathon begins with a single step.

You have to start somewhere.

Unless you think blind optimism will see us right.

 

[Swansman]

So.......

A marathon begins with a single step.

You have to start somewhere.

Unless you think blind optimism will see us right.

It already did start somewhere. Where? Depends on how you see it. 1997 (or maybe before that, in the events that lead to it) is a good take, when the club went from the hands of destruction and greed into the hands of a fan, and stayed that way ever since. So it began in the bottom of Division 3. In a borrowed ground in Gillingham. Since then a few things obviously happened, and the club is now the 16th best in England. Blind optimism? "See us right?" The club has been on the right path for a good while and its not through blind optimism, its hard work, planning, intelligence, dedication and a few £100m spent by Tony Bloom.

Your response? "Feck this blind optimism that havent seen us right - I need Tony to invest another £100-150m in fancy footballers or I'm going to look and act like Wilfried Zaha dropping his icecream at age 7".

 

[JBizzle]

So.....

Ali J
Izzy
Tau
I am concerned long-term with Welbeck and Lallana regarding injuries
Maupay and Connolly must give cause for concern.

Ali J, maybe
Izzy, he'll be off the wage will in the summer
Tau, impossible to tell. He's looked good enough in his few cameos
Welbeck and Lallana I get, but their input in a fairly short about of game-time has been pretty sizeable
Maupay, I think is good enough for the Premier League. Top 10? Maybe not. Connolly is 21, no-one at that age is a concern for me

 

[DJ NOBO]

He did state paying up his contract so that wouldnt free up the wages as they will have already been spent

Yeah , that would be going too far !
Our best bet might be finding a club to take over the final (?) year of his contract.
I don’t see us getting a fee, if he’s on big bucks.
For whatever reason , He’s been a big disappointment IMO.
We had tracked him for years , I’m guessing the then recruitment team had pored over the footage .
Yet he is so obviously lacking what it takes to perform consistently at this level.
It’s very strange.
He has to go though.
He’s simply not good enough to be a part of where Graham Potter is taking this team.

 

[durrington gull]

So Who are these players you feel , are not up to the task and need replacing?

I'll help you with this: -

Maupay - Sell and replace
Ali J - Loan or Sell
Connelly - Loan
Tau - Loan
Loco - Give away/cancel contract
Izzy - Dont renew contract
Propper - Sell