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Stat Brother

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I very much enjoyed the day out at Wembley, secured thanks to Locadia's great finish and a game-changing cameo from March.

I also enjoyed the win over Everton and the draw with Arsenal. What is your point? I've not suggested he isn't capable of the occasional flash of promise. He's been here a fair while though, so you'll be wanting to put me in my place with a long list of other great moments, no doubt :shrug:

Blimey so it's a hard slog for a player to raise his game up from "pretty shit".
Although I guess if they can they can go onto countless games without even having a shot on target and not even have it mentioned.

Yes Jurgen has longer at the club.
Yes in that time Jurgen hasn't made himself undropable.

But I do believe he's better than "pretty shit".
 


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One good goal does not a player make.

Not a fan of being negative about our players so I'm loathed to chip in on threads such as this.

I will say that Locadia has been in dangerous positions umpteen times this season and wasted every single one of those moments (besides Millwall). Similar can be said of Solly and others of course, but we didn't spend millions of pounds on Solly did we. We were supposed to spend that money on players who will give us the edge in PL matches, who will take the limited amount of opportunities we get and make them count for something.

He might be useful next season if we find ourselves in the Championship, but his PL days are numbered for me, I feel like I've watched enough of him to make that call confidently (awaits bounce).

I can find many more reasons/excuses as to why Ali J hasn't found any form, so happy to give him more time if there's any to give.
 


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One good goal does not a player make.

No, but comparing Locadia to Rohan Ince is just ridiculous. Different positions, different standard, different expectations.

Ince scored a wonder goal on the volley from 25 yards. Locadia scored a real strikers goal. One where he used his strength to hold off an opponent, turn and hit the ball on the bounce, all in one movement. Signs he might just have that strikers instinct we have yet to see. Ince's amazing goal was just a complete one off for any professional footballer. If you were expecting Ince to score more like that, you'd have been sectioned for delusion.
 




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No, but comparing Locadia to Rohan Ince is just ridiculous. Different positions, different standard, different expectations.

Ince scored a wonder goal on the volley from 25 yards. Locadia scored a real strikers goal. One where he used his strength to hold off an opponent, turn and hit the ball all in one movement. Signs he might just have that strikers instinct we have yet to see.

Fair enough, point taken.

The standard of opposition has to be taken into account though. Like I said in my previous post, I think he'd be useful in the Championship.
 


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I very much enjoyed the day out at Wembley, secured thanks to Locadia's great finish and a game-changing cameo from March.

I also enjoyed the win over Everton and the draw with Arsenal. What is your point? I've not suggested he isn't capable of the occasional flash of promise. He's been here a fair while though, so you'll be wanting to put me in my place with a long list of other great moments, no doubt :shrug:

Oh and let's not forget that game changing cameo (word up) from your favourite player Solly was actually a pass that was going nowhere until a huge deflection landed it near enough to Big Jurg to create something out of nothing.
As well as the worst last kick of the game free kick that missed everyone and would have missed the goal were it not for the intervention of old cloth-hands.

Still the take away from that game is Locadia is pretty shit.
Solly is a game changer
& I guess
Murray was ok.


Solly came on and he and Jurgen drove the team forward something that hadn't happened all game, and has hardly happened at all in 2019.

To single out Solly and call Jurgen "pretty shit" is incredibly disingenuous and rather silly.
 


thejackal

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as for aj, I've seen nothing to suggest any hope.

Did you not watch Hudds at the Amex? He was unlucky not to score with a screamer that hit the bar. The BBC writeup seems to disagree with you too, for what its worth:

"The Iranian, Brighton's record signing of £17m from AZ Alkmaar last summer, provided the spark that Chris Hughton's side needed and was a handful on both flanks in his first league start since 3 November."

Utter shitehouse?
 
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Megazone

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Fair enough, point taken.

The standard of opposition has to be taken into account though. Like I said in my previous post, I think he'd be useful in the Championship.

Definitely. I believe our new signings need a season in the Champ. I can see Bissouma and Locadia both developing and improving playing at a lower standard better than they will playing in the Prem. Their progression has clearly stunted whilst in the Prem. I definitely think dropping down a level will be the only way we get to see them play with more confidence and consistency.

I may sound negative, but I really won't be that upset if we go down. It might be the blessing in disguise which get's our new and expensive signings that chance for some self belief. Maybe the new signings will come back stronger after a season where they get to experience what a football feels like? Lots of top class players slowly climbed up the standards to become top flight footballers (Kane, Murray, Walker, etc). Maybe thats what Bissouma, Locadia and aj need?
 


Megazone

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Did you not watch Hudds at the Amex? He was unlucky not to score with a screamer that hit the bar. The BBC writeup seems to disagree with you too, for what its worth:

"The Iranian, Brighton's record signing of £17m from AZ Alkmaar last summer, provided the spark that Chris Hughton's side needed and was a handful on both flanks in his first league start since 3 November."

Utter shitehouse?

Other than hitting the crossbar (since when did that become an achievement?), what else has he done?
 










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Oh and let's not forget that game changing cameo (word up) from your favourite player Solly was actually a pass that was going nowhere until a huge deflection landed it near enough to Big Jurg to create something out of nothing.
As well as the worst last kick of the game free kick that missed everyone and would have missed the goal were it not for the intervention of old cloth-hands.

Still the take away from that game is Locadia is pretty shit.
Solly is a game changer
& I guess
Murray was ok.


Solly came on and he and Jurgen drove the team forward something that hadn't happened all game, and has hardly happened at all in 2019.

To single out Solly and call Jurgen "pretty shit" is incredibly disingenuous and rather silly.

But then so is suggesting Jurgen is a PL player based on one great goal.

Lots of players have moments it’s consistency and ability to do it at the highest level. (See Ince Swindon, KLL on numerous occasions).




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Megazone

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Believe it or not, he has been solid defensively. I would say after Solly, he is our second best defensive winger.

He looks far too soft in relation to the physical aspect of the game to be praised for his defensive work. He's so easy to nudge off the ball he reminds me of Jake Robinson.

Do you think thats a fair comparison?
 




Icy Gull

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But like it or not, that is how we play.

I hate the way we play and having watched Cardiff and Saints recently I do not accept it’s the only way we can play, hence my desire to see CH replaced at the end of the season.

Happy to take the gamble on a new manager (I don’t know who but there will be one out there, I don’t watch all games over Europe, but I’m sure someone at the club does) being able to get more out of the players we have.

The defensive mentality has become an embarrassment.

Anyway I didn’t really didn’t want to bring this up again at this stage of the season but you and others on this thread have forced my hand by the writing off of forwards we have turned into defenders. Maybe CH should have insisted on a few more defenders rather than forwards last summer.

None of the newbies got to play until they were indoctrinated with playing as defenders first and foremost. It is totally anti football and a shit experience. The Cup Semi final should have been a thing of joy, it wasn’t for me, it was probably the dullest semi final in living memory.

Waits to get shouted down but hey ho
 




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He looks far too soft in relation to the physical aspect of the game to be praised for his defensive work. He's so easy to nudge off the ball he reminds me of Jake Robinson.

Do you think thats a fair comparison?

Actually I don’t, but equally, he frequently ball watches, and is no better or worse than Knockaert or Izquierdo. IMO.


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