[Albion] Albion players surname meanings

[NooBHA]

I am setting another task for [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] since his ''due diligence'' to my question on the Crisps Thread was First Class - Even although I did only want the Readers Digest Version of a response to that question his research that he uncovered was very interesting.

So my question is

When did people begin having ''Surnames'' or ''Second Names'' ?

I am presuming as populations grew and people started to live longer and there were more that two Generations surviving in any given family at any one time ?

 

[NooBHA]

I’ll drive him there.

You have one of these ?

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...wAhU5tXEKHS2CALkQ7Al6BAgEECg&biw=1536&bih=754

 

[Swansman]

I am setting another task for [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] since his ''due diligence'' to my question on the Crisps Thread was First Class - Even although I did only want the Readers Digest Version of a response to that question his research that he uncovered was very interesting.

So my question is

When did people begin having ''Surnames'' or ''Second Names'' ?

I am presuming as populations grew and people started to live longer and there were more that two Generations surviving in any given family at any one time ?

Well it depends on where you are in the world. In China where they had a more centralised rule at a early stage some emperor thousands of years ago ordered everyone to have surnames for census reasons. In Europe it became a thing in the Roman Empire for similar reasons and then spread across the continent with most joining in like 600 or 700 years ago (lots of examples before that though). In countries where people did not find this a cool funky thang it was introduced more or less by force as states became modernised since its difficult to administrate taxes and other bollocks if its impossible to identify individuals.

 

[NooBHA]

Well it depends on where you are in the world. In China where they had a more centralised rule at a early stage some emperor thousands of years ago ordered everyone to have surnames for census reasons. In Europe it became a thing in the Roman Empire for similar reasons and then spread across the continent with most joining in like 600 or 700 years ago (lots of examples before that though). In countries where people did not find this a cool funky thang it was introduced more or less by force as states became modernised since its difficult to administrate taxes and other bollocks if its impossible to identify individuals.

That's what I like - The Readers Digest Version - Excellent

Although I thought that The second names were initially the profession of the individuals - I am enlightened

 

[Bodian]

I am setting another task for [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] since his ''due diligence'' to my question on the Crisps Thread was First Class - Even although I did only want the Readers Digest Version of a response to that question his research that he uncovered was very interesting.

So my question is

When did people begin having ''Surnames'' or ''Second Names'' ?

I am presuming as populations grew and people started to live longer and there were more that two Generations surviving in any given family at any one time ?

Well it depends on where you are in the world. In China where they had a more centralised rule at a early stage some emperor thousands of years ago ordered everyone to have surnames for census reasons. In Europe it became a thing in the Roman Empire for similar reasons and then spread across the continent with most joining in like 600 or 700 years ago (lots of examples before that though). In countries where people did not find this a cool funky thang it was introduced more or less by force as states became modernised since its difficult to administrate taxes and other bollocks if its impossible to identify individuals.

What's the system in Sweden Swanny. Is it like Iceland where the second name changes every generation. That is - Simon Johnson's son is called Dennis Simonson, and his son is called Lars Dennison - and so on?

 

[Swansman]

What's the system in Sweden Swanny. Is it like Iceland where the second name changes every generation. That is - Simon Johnson's son is called Dennis Simonson, and his son is called Lars Dennison - and so on?

Nope, I think that is 100% unique for Iceland.

The average "Svensson" in Sweden got their names based on some random dude named Sven several hundred years ago. I think we had the "Iceland system" until the 1600s or something.

In Sweden and also in the rest of Scandinavia (I think), profession surnames are uncommon. We have ornamental surnames instead, kind of like most Jewish surnames (like Rosenberg - rose mountain). In my case my surname is Berglind, meaning mountain pry. Another example is Victor Lindelöf (pry leaf).

 

[osgood]

Mackail-Smith - Resembling the labrador or retriever, esp. where a balloon is involved.

© Susie Dent

C'mon ! ,CMS More of a Springer !

 

[osgood]

I am setting another task for [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] since his ''due diligence'' to my question on the Crisps Thread was First Class - Even although I did only want the Readers Digest Version of a response to that question his research that he uncovered was very interesting.

So my question is

When did people begin having ''Surnames'' or ''Second Names'' ?

I am presuming as populations grew and people started to live longer and there were more that two Generations surviving in any given family at any one time ?

Did you mean the Readers Wives version ?

 

[Superphil]

You have one of these ?

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...wAhU5tXEKHS2CALkQ7Al6BAgEECg&biw=1536&bih=754

We went on that tour the evening before 9-11 for a friends birthday, then went up on the Eye in the dark, watching the planes flying overhead and down into LHR. One of our groups husband worked in ATC, and said their biggest worry was a plane coming down on a city. 24 hours later, blimey.

 

[NooBHA]

We went on that tour the evening before 9-11 for a friends birthday, then went up on the Eye in the dark, watching the planes flying overhead and down into LHR. One of our groups husband worked in ATC, and said their biggest worry was a plane coming down on a city. 24 hours later, blimey.

Ask him if has any idea about tomorrow's Lottery Numbers ?

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Keith Dublin (translates as Keith capital city of Eire)

 

[Baldseagull]

Florin Andone, I believe translates as 3 shillings, Florin = 2 shillings and-one makes 3

 

[half time scores]

Florin Andone, I believe translates as 3 shillings, Florin = 2 shillings and-one makes 3

I say, jolly well played that man!