Albion Named and Shamed

[Thunder Bolt]

I wonder what the general response to this thread had been if it had been Crystal Palace football club that had messed up the reimbursed expenses of one of their employees which had caused them to be put in a different category of employee and caused them to be guilty of improperly paying their employee. I believe the reaction by people on this message board would have been totally different.

In either case, whether it was BHAFC or CPFC I would have been just as adamant that the employee should never have been paid incorrectly and that the punishment received by the football club, whether BHAFC or CPFC, handed out by HMRC was fair.

It's funny you should mention CPFC. I've had a look back through some of your posts. You drove 'down' to Crawley in the airport parking thread, and in another thread, mentioned flushing an Albion kit down the WC.

 

[Albion my Albion]

Take me now lord, I should be named and shamed, I missed out the word 'be', as in to be commonplace.

It's why I'm so serious about "too and "to" mistakes. I thought you were saying "too commonplace" instead of "to be commonplace."

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

I take "too"and "to" mistakes just as seriously as payroll mistakes. Truly! They really are my biggest pet hates.

 

[Albion my Albion]

It's funny you should mention CPFC. I've had a look back through some of your posts. You drove 'down' to Crawley in the airport parking thread, and in another thread, mentioned flushing an Albion kit down the WC.

I live in Darlington, far north of Crawley. Sometimes I get so upset when the Albion lose I want to flush my Albion kit down the WC. I never truly have. The joke in that thread was that I got a bigger toilet so the kit would not get stuck in the plumbing.

 

[Albion my Albion]

Take me now lord, I should be named and shamed, I missed out the word 'be', as in to be commonplace.

I've notified HMRC about your need of a proper shaming.

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

I live in Darlington, far north of Crawley. Sometimes I get so upset when the Albion lose I want to flush my Albion kit down the WC. I never truly have. The joke in that thread was that I got a bigger toilet so the kit would not get stuck in the plumbing.

A bigger toilet wtf where can I buy one of them

 

[Albion my Albion]

A bigger toilet wtf where can I buy one of them

The plumbing supply store??

 

[Dick Head]

They're talking about it on http://www.lbc.co.uk/ next..

 

[NooBHA]

HMRC are brilliant at releasing these things and I welcome it tenfold.........I have no doubt that this was a genuine error by the club because we are all capable of mistakes and HMRC releasing these things will keep Employers on their toes on such matters.

Instead of saying the club was disappointed by HMRC. It should have come out and said '' Yeah we admit we made a mistake. This is how it came about and we are glad that HMRC pointed it out to us because this allows us to rectify matters and we are going to ensure it never happens again at BHA.

If any other error occurs in the future on our part, we would hope to be notified in advance and we will be sure to not only rectify it but also to compensate any one who has lost out due to our error.

That would for me have been the ideal response.

This is not a a major ''faux pas'' on behalf of the club but in terms of monetary value it is minimal and transparency in the future rather than self preservation is always the best way forward.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I take "too"and "to" mistakes just as seriously as payroll mistakes. Truly! They really are my biggest pet hates.

You must be a right barrel of laughs at a party.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

HMRC are brilliant at releasing these things and I welcome it tenfold.........I have no doubt that this was a genuine error by the club because we are all capable of mistakes and HMRC releasing these things will keep Employers on their toes on such matters.

Except [MENTION=33916]Albion my Albion[/MENTION] it would seem

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Albion my albion has done a spectacular 'Enrest v Rosenior in the Sun' type single poster moan crusade.


When added to the 'Tony won't buy me a cup of tea' saga, it seems that NSC has become Moan Stand Chat.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

I believe it was actually Driver8 who made the "admin error" on pay but he/she will never read this because I'm now on his/her ignore list.

You come across as a bit of a tit

 

[thony]

From what I read in the clubs statement, it seems to me that by paying a person on work experience too much in the way of expenses, changed his status from an exempt person to a non exempt person.
There are rules which state that only reasonable and relevant expenses should be paid, otherwise the person becomes someone who is paid and therefore has to be paid minimum wage.
This is not the club being tight, it is the club falling foul of a rule that allows them to pay nothing, but if they pay something they have to pay minimum wage.

Here is an example from HMRC.
Example 3: work experience with a financial reward

David successfully applies for a work experience position in a small graphic design company, after seeing an advert offering £50 ‘travel expenses’ for each week. He receives these ‘travel expenses’ despite walking to work.

David should be paid at least the NMW.

Paying a financial reward which is more than paying back genuine ‘out-of-pocket’ expenses is evidence that David is a worker for NMW purposes.

you can read all about it here https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-minimum-wage-work-experience-and-internships

Aaaahhh! Now it all makes sense why HMRC are saying the individual was underpaid while the club say they were just took generous with their expenses. Thanks for sharing that, as I was struggling to understand how these could both be true.

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[Deleted User X18H]

You come across as a bit of a tit

I' ve come across some tits...... before!

Ask me how I'm spelling coming?
CUmin!!!

 

[mona]

You come across as a bit of a tit

Too big a tit to just be called a bit of one.

 

[Baldseagull]

HMRC are brilliant at releasing these things and I welcome it tenfold.........I have no doubt that this was a genuine error by the club because we are all capable of mistakes and HMRC releasing these things will keep Employers on their toes on such matters.

Instead of saying the club was disappointed by HMRC. It should have come out and said '' Yeah we admit we made a mistake. This is how it came about and we are glad that HMRC pointed it out to us because this allows us to rectify matters and we are going to ensure it never happens again at BHA.

If any other error occurs in the future on our part, we would hope to be notified in advance and we will be sure to not only rectify it but also to compensate any one who has lost out due to our error.

That would for me have been the ideal response.

This is not a a major ''faux pas'' on behalf of the club but in terms of monetary value it is minimal and transparency in the future rather than self preservation is always the best way forward.

If I were named and shamed as someone who has underpaid an employee, it would rankle a bit if it had come about because I overpaid expenses to a work experience lad, meaning that he was now judged to be an employee by HMRC.

 

[El Presidente]

You must be a right barrel of laughs at a party.

What makes you think he ever gets invited to parties?

 

[El Presidente]

I' ve come across some tits...... before!

Ask me how I'm spelling coming?
CUmin!!!

I sadly now have a picture in my head of a gurning Timmy at the vinegar stokes stage with his Union Jack waistcoat on sloshing out a pearl necklace over some poor woman, and it's not a pretty sight.

 

[Deleted User X18H]

I sadly now have a picture in my head of a gurning Timmy at the vinegar stokes stage with his Union Jack waistcoat on sloshing out a pearl necklace over some poor woman, and it's not a pretty sight.

Can you send it to me ?

(Someone will undoubtably mock one up)