Albion knock back Newcastle bid for winger

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dazzer6666

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I genuinely can't see how, if he went, we could realistically adequately replace him no matter what price we got for him. Knocky really is the best you can possibly expect to have in the championship and he's very rare in that he's a talented, tricky winger with a very high work rate and a lot of passion. You don't see that often. I'd be devastated if we sold him, no matter the price.

Agree with this...he's pretty much irreplaceable at Championship level with anyone as good.
 






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Feb 23, 2009
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I genuinely can't see how, if he went, we could realistically adequately replace him no matter what price we got for him. Knocky really is the best you can possibly expect to have in the championship and he's very rare in that he's a talented, tricky winger with a very high work rate and a lot of passion. You don't see that often. I'd be devastated if we sold him, no matter the price.

I think if his head is turned and Newcastle are a big club with a class manager we can't stop him to be fair who would blame him.

so get the maximum we can is now the game.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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"Second-tier" Newcastle could be netting between £35m and £40m if Liverpool / Everton and some Italian club sign the players they're after. Sissoko and another one.

It isn't about what players are worth anymore. It's about knowing that clubs have a certain level of finance and wringing as much out of them as possible.


Sissoko being valued at 35 million is a joke in itself, his attitude is terrible
 




Triggaaar

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Think bloom will promise the players if we don't go up this year then they can leave
To PL clubs, yes, but not to other championship clubs. If we don't get promoted we'll need to try again next year and selling our best players won't be a good move.

I think if his head is turned and Newcastle are a big club with a class manager we can't stop him
Yes we can. Selling him to a promotion rival would be madness.
so get the maximum we can is now the game.
The game is to get to the PL.
 


Marshy

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Newcastle just paid 10 mill for Ritchie from Bournemouth, so I very much doubt they would pay more than that.

10 million is a cracking prioce in reality, we just cant afford to let him go in my opinion.
 


Whoislloydy

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IF we sell, does it mean Blooms time is up?

I love the man but can we realistically compete without the big money of some of these clubs? I'm not trying to bait someone into an argument here, just asking the question.
 






Nixonator

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I think if his head is turned and Newcastle are a big club with a class manager we can't stop him to be fair who would blame him.

so get the maximum we can is now the game.

And how much would you be happy with then?

People use the cliche 'unearthing a gem' on here too frequently, but in the case of AK it is true. Massive credit has to given to the recruitment team for that, but it also makes me realistic to think we could try another 10 times and not get someone of his quality.

He scores goals/creates assists out of nothing which is a massively important quality - fast counter vs Huddersfield, moment of brilliance vs Brentford, free kick vs QPR etc, this guy will win us games. In addition to his obvious qualities, he's also physically strong, tracks back, integrates well in a team and has a genuine drive to win every game.

On that basis, IF we are aiming for automatic promotion, which has been indicated by TB, then AK is quite literally priceless. If we are aiming mainly for playoffs plus maybe sneak into automatics then he has a price - in my opinion in the 14-16m region.

Even with that kind of money to reinvest, what will we do with it? We're not going to break the bank on a 30 year old McCormack that's for sure.
 






pishhead

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And how much would you be happy with then?

People use the cliche 'unearthing a gem' on here too frequently, but in the case of AK it is true. Massive credit has to given to the recruitment team for that, but it also makes me realistic to think we could try another 10 times and not get someone of his quality.

He scores goals/creates assists out of nothing which is a massively important quality - fast counter vs Huddersfield, moment of brilliance vs Brentford, free kick vs QPR etc, this guy will win us games. In addition to his obvious qualities, he's also physically strong, tracks back, integrates well in a team and has a genuine drive to win every game.

On that basis, IF we are aiming for automatic promotion, which has been indicated by TB, then AK is quite literally priceless. If we are aiming mainly for playoffs plus maybe sneak into automatics then he has a price - in my opinion in the 14-16m region.

Even with that kind of money to reinvest, what will we do with it? We're not going to break the bank on a 30 year old McCormack that's for sure.

Good post. It's not what he is worth it's what he's worth to us.
 


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Feb 23, 2009
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And how much would you be happy with then?.

Where did I say I would be happy, I would not be happy or sad it's the game we are in and we have to acknowledge and admit bigger clubs will swoop for our stars that is a fact.

We are not a big club, we are not a promotion favorite by any stretch of the imagination.

We are a good Championship team with play off prospects, that is it.

We are not going to spend or compete with Newcastle, Villa, Wolves and we are losing out to Sheffield Wednesday for players... We are getting very close to panic buying mode...
 






drew

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IF we sell, does it mean Blooms time is up?

I love the man but can we realistically compete without the big money of some of these clubs? I'm not trying to bait someone into an argument here, just asking the question.

Really, are you serious? If he goes, who replaces him. Some overseas consortium that will come in, fail and leave us in massive debt (probably coupled with interest payments).


The whole point is that we are where we are through good management. Look at Forest, look at QPR, Portsmouth etc.

People seem to get a grip in that we are not a big club and, pretty much like every other club in the country, we are a selling club, ie we get an unbelievable offer then we sell. Do you think Spurs really wanted to sell Bale?

At the moment, Bloom and he team have kept the squad together. If we get a good start to the season that may persuade some dithering to stay, equally it might make others more keen to spend more on getting them off us and/or force Bloom to offer more in new contracts. It's a game of cat or mouse, always has been and probably always will.
 


Bra

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Feb 21, 2009
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As others have said to us and our achieving our ambitions then he is priceless. He makes and scores goals and is one of the few players who is capable of turning the game on his own. Players like him will always attract bids but I for one would be absolutely gutted if we end up selling to a rival. Even with the large fee I am not sure we can buy what he brings to our team.
 


Easy 10

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We'll do very well to keep hold of Knockaert if Newcastle come back though. Playing for Rafa in front of 50,000 fans every other week, for a club that is pretty much nailed on to be back in the PL next year, on an initial contract that's probably double what we can pay him if not more. You couldn't really blame him if his head was turned by all that. Hopefully we'll hold firm against the bids and he'll stay, but if Newcastle REALLY want him, I can't see it not happening tbh.
 


GoldWithFalmer

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If we sell then it means the price is right OR the situation mainly from the players standpoint dictates that it's very advisable we sell.
 




Bra

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We'll do very well to keep hold of Knockaert if Newcastle come back though. Playing for Rafa in front of 50,000 fans every other week, for a club that is pretty much nailed on to be back in the PL next year, on an initial contract that's probably double what we can pay him if not more. You couldn't really blame him if his head was turned by all that. Hopefully we'll hold firm against the bids and he'll stay, but if Newcastle REALLY want him, I can't see it not happening tbh.

If you are correct and we lose him I would say he would be a substantially bigger loss than either Dunk or Stephens and would probably end any faint chance of Auto's. I believe the club will see this and resist.
 


LlcoolJ

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Oct 14, 2009
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When it comes down to it every club is a selling club if a player wants to leave, be it for more cash, glory or both. See Man United and C. Ronaldo, Liverpool and Suarez, even Barca and Figo etc etc.

I REALLY hope he doesn't go but I agree that if Newcastle turn the financial screw hard enough then there's very little we can do about it. It all then comes down to the player.
 


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