[News] Alastair Campbell expelled.

[SollysLeftFoot]

In 2015, Andrew Fisher tweeted "If you live in Croydon South, vote with dignity, vote [MENTION=14160]cam[/MENTION]paignbeard", who was a Class War candidate opposing Labour. This wasn't even after the event as Campbell's was, this was in the run up to an election.

Andrew Fisher is Jeremy Corbyn's head of policy.

Sshh, that doesn’t fit the narrative.

Also intrigued to know what international crime Blair has allegedly broken...

 

[Biscuit]

It is actually the opposite.

Whenever Labour has a move to the left, it is the centre-left who cannot compromise their views, so flounce off to start the SDP, or Change UK or whatever else. Those who believe in the left, didn't jump ship when Blair revoked article 4, or took Labour down a path of soft-Toryism, they stayed with the party made their displeasure known with rebel votes and the such, but stayed loyal.

So we have a Labour that wants to embark on left of centre-left politics, and that's all it is, and it's hissy fits all round. Campbell has been an agitator since Corbyn was elected leader.

The problem isn't labour not wanting the centre-left, the problem is the centre-left don't want to go to bed without their safety blanket of the centre ground.

That's really not my experience of it at all. Labour pre-Corbyn was much less aggressive to those with differing views than the current Momentum led shambles.

 

[Simster]

It is actually the opposite.

Whenever Labour has a move to the left, it is the centre-left who cannot compromise their views, so flounce off to start the SDP, or Change UK or whatever else. Those who believe in the left, didn't jump ship when Blair revoked article 4, or took Labour down a path of soft-Toryism, they stayed with the party made their displeasure known with rebel votes and the such, but stayed loyal.

So we have a Labour that wants to embark on left of centre-left politics, and that's all it is, and it's hissy fits all round. Campbell has been an agitator since Corbyn was elected leader.

The problem isn't labour not wanting the centre-left, the problem is the centre-left don't want to go to bed without their safety blanket of the centre ground.

Spin it how you like, but the Labour party are not getting into government without the centre left moderates.

 

[SollysLeftFoot]

Again factually incorrect. At the time the invasion wasn't illegal. Since then the laws surrounding such things have been clarified. Since the law cannot be applied retrospectively, it wasn't an illegal invasion.

Such an invasion would be legally and morally right... R2P

 

[symyjym]

Just because he has depression and does charidy work doesn’t mean he isn’t a **** though?

Exactly.

BBC iplayer: Iraq: A State of MInd Is worth a watch regarding the mental health issues of the Iraqi people including the Yazidi females.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0005d9j/iraq-a-state-of-mind

Being concerned at his depression is a joke and Jimmy Savile did a lot for charity too.

 

[Chicken Run]

Exactly.

BBC iplayer: Iraq: A State of MInd Is worth a watch regarding the mental health issues of the Iraqi people including the Yazidi females.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0005d9j/iraq-a-state-of-mind

Being concerned at his depression is a joke and Jimmy Savile did a lot for charity too.

I’ll be chastised for thinking Dec’s a knob next?

 

[Badger]

The purge of Labour of the exact type of voter they need to win continues. Green for me from now on

It's hilarious. Up until a few years ago, Labour were always on my radar as a party I would or at least would consider voting for. I wouldn't have dreamt of voting for the Green Party.

Now, the Green Party have stepped in the right direction as they've become more popular. Labour are becoming more of a joke party every day, completely moving away from the "undecided" voters (like me) they desperately need to have a chance of winning an election. I can't imagine voting for them.

 

[symyjym]

Blair claims he acted on the facts available to him at the time, I believe him - you don't. That doesn't make me happy that so many people lost their lives. Nobody would be OK with that, well, maybe Saddam Hussein would?

So Blair had no knowledge of the sexing up of the "facts". Is that really what you are claiming?

Where is your sense of justice for the people who are really affected.

If we cannot hold our own leaders to account for bad behaviour we are morally bankrupt and we should not be surprised when extremists seek justice for themselves.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Hope we don't sign him

No, he'll go to Burnley.

 

[DumLum]

It is actually the opposite.

Whenever Labour has a move to the left, it is the centre-left who cannot compromise their views, so flounce off to start the SDP, or Change UK or whatever else. Those who believe in the left, didn't jump ship when Blair revoked article 4, or took Labour down a path of soft-Toryism, they stayed with the party made their displeasure known with rebel votes and the such, but stayed loyal.

So we have a Labour that wants to embark on left of centre-left politics, and that's all it is, and it's hissy fits all round. Campbell has been an agitator since Corbyn was elected leader.

The problem isn't labour not wanting the centre-left, the problem is the centre-left don't want to go to bed without their safety blanket of the centre ground.

Is Tom Watson part of a plot to get rid of Jeremy Corbyn?
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1132973123756843008?s=19

 

[symyjym]

Sshh, that doesn’t fit the narrative.

Also intrigued to know what international crime Blair has allegedly broken...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_against_peace

 

[Leekbrookgull]

What does Kate Hoey have to do to get expelled?

Good point,as from what i know of her seems to be basic/traditional Labour,i could well be wrong ?

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Also intrigued to know what international crime Blair has allegedly broken...

As, indeed what the Brexit supporting MPs did. As I said, horses for courses, politicians lie, nothing has changed.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Probably crawling from under the nearest stone, I should think.
He is head of Strategy and Communications.
Ghastly man.

Corbyn's handler.

I was going to say puppeteer but it's the same thing. Watch who's pulling the strings.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Probably crawling from under the nearest stone, I should think.
He is head of Strategy and Communications.
Ghastly man.

Good point,as from what i know of her seems to be basic/traditional Labour,i could well be wrong ?

Yes, you could indeed be wrong.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...with-nigel-farage_uk_57ee5bcce4b00e5804f111bf

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...hink-nigel-farage-is-a-racist-video-interview

 

[symyjym]

[MENTION=307]Biscuit[/MENTION]

p.s. You need to watch this and if you still don't believe that Blair and Campbell are not morally responsible you have no heart or soul and have no sense of justice:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0005d9j/iraq-a-state-of-mind

 

[Leekbrookgull]

[MENTION=307]Biscuit[/MENTION]

p.s. You need to watch this and if you still don't believe that Blair and Campbell are not morally responsible you have no heart or soul and have no sense of justice:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0005d9j/iraq-a-state-of-mind

Get the pair of them in The Hague.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Spin it how you like, but the Labour party are not getting into government without the centre left moderates.

I agree, that is not what I am saying, they've not been forced out, they've left, or made their membership untenable. It's funny we call them 'moderates' but not moderate enough to tolerate politics a bit further to the left.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Is Tom Watson part of a plot to get rid of Jeremy Corbyn?
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1132973123756843008?s=19

 

[The Clamp]

A very brave man.