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[Other Sport] AJ v Ruiz Jnr



BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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AJ pretty much confirms a third fight, which could smash all box office records. Bring. It. On.

:O


A lot is said straight after a fight without any thought but I cannot see it happening. He would earn as much against Fury or Wilder if money was the main object. I think that he will fight 1 or 2 ranked challengers then go for a unification fight.
 
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blockhseagull

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Jan 30, 2006
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Clever fight from AJ.

Wasn’t exciting or ruthless.... but he dominated Ruiz from the first bell.

Won’t answer any of his critics but tonight was about being clever, safe, no stupid risks and winning his belts back and saving his career... it wasn’t about making the same mistakes he did last time and losing again.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Clever fight from AJ.

Wasn’t exciting or ruthless.... but he dominated Ruiz from the first bell.

Won’t answer any of his critics but tonight was about being clever, safe, no stupid risks and winning his belts back and saving his career... it wasn’t about making the same mistakes he did last time and losing again.

Agree on all points.

Pay of £60m, plus keeping that going with further world title bouts, a bonus!
 


Munkfish

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That was a Chris Hughton Performance but its what he had to do.

Still would be torn apart by Fury. He wouldnt get close to him.

Probably would outbox wilder but the guy doesnt like being punched and wilder is landing a KO punch.

He can stick his legacy up his arse.
 




METALMICKY

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Hmm against a grossly overweight 20st man giving away significant height and reach. Not sure it needed a masterclass to be honest. Just some discipline.

That's way more accurate than all the 'masterclass' nonsense. It says much about his capabilities that is was the only way he could beat such a one dimensional opponent.
 


dangull

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To be fair it was a good impression of Muhammad Ali against a limited opponent. Makes you wonder how he lost the first fight.
Complacency...
 


Normal Rob

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Jul 8, 2003
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Watched at a friend's house. So glad I'd didn't pay for it, just dropped a few quid owed as payment. AJ controlled against a dangerous but inferior opponent (as was suspected). I used to think AJ was the class of the field. Now I think he's a distant 3rd.
 




big nuts

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Jan 15, 2011
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A masterclass by Joshua and well deserved victory. but I cannot see him wanting a 3rd fight why should he when he has bigger nuts to crack with equally good purses as a 3rd fight would generate. Ruiz will want it but I dont think AJ will. They may say so at the moment but I dont think it will happen. AJ has too much to lose.

Masterclass? He just beat a guy with a BMI higher then the points needed to stay up this year.
 








GT49er

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How much longer can Wilder shy away from a showdown? America still miffed that the heavyweight crown doesn't belong exclusively to them (as it did for most of the 20th. century) so can't bear the thought of Wider not hanging on to the single one he's got.
Wouldn't be surprised if the Americans (and Wilder) tried to get momentum going for pressure for a AJ - Fury fight as a final eliminator before risking Wilder's solitary belt. Even then, he'll probably try to slip in a fight or two against less dangerous opponents first.
 


middletoenail

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Imagine being paid £10m to turn up and box for a maximum of 36 minutes. Surely, the minimum is to turn up in fight condition? For Ruiz to use the excuse that he was overweight, is a complete and utter piss take.
 






Guinness Boy

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Masterclass? He just beat a guy with a BMI higher then the points needed to stay up this year.

Ruiz looks like a large tub of lard, as does Fury.
Doesn't look like their keeping in shape routine is up to much.

That's exactly where AJ did a good job and Ruiz dodn't though.

Ruiz has acted like a chav who's won the lottery and clearly spent a lot of time since June eating more burgers than Elvis. Fury, back in the day, boxes much better and tougher than last night against Klitschko and then spends years in the wilderness getting fatter than Ruiz, blamming charly up his nose and making unfortunate pronouncements about religion and homosexulaity.

AJ? The very day after being humiliated he gets back in the gym. He works until he can work no more. He has a tactical plan to get his belt back. He executes it to the letter. If that was a marathon runner or tennis player, journalists would be fighting each other over the superlatives sections of the thesaurus.

Yes the pay day (and PPV rates) were ludicrous. I can understand most Brighton fans absolutely loathing the Hearns - I've never forgiven Barry. But, at the end of the day, all AJ has done is get his belts back in a pre-negotiated rematch clause and shown absolute dedication and professionalism to do so. That's what sport is all about.

Where I agree with the criticism is that he now needs to fight Wilder. A third fight against fat boy would be a joke.
 


DJ NOBO

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Jul 18, 2004
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That was a Chris Hughton Performance but its what he had to do.

Still would be torn apart by Fury. He wouldnt get close to him.

Probably would outbox wilder but the guy doesnt like being punched and wilder is landing a KO punch.

He can stick his legacy up his arse.

😂😂😂
 


DJ NOBO

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Jul 18, 2004
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All in all a waste of money , I’ve seen better fights in the Cliftonville and fitter fighters too for that matter. Joshua will get beaten by anyone decent he fights next and the hype about him is long gone

What were you expecting?
Parker had shown how to beat Ruiz - don’t engage, keep him at distance, don’t get complacent.
As soon as AJ said he was here ‘to do a job’ it was likely the fight we got was coming.
Having got your prediction completely wrong maybe you could give AJ a little bit of credit for delivering on what he promised.
 
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big nuts

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That's exactly where AJ did a good job and Ruiz dodn't though.

Ruiz has acted like a chav who's won the lottery and clearly spent a lot of time since June eating more burgers than Elvis. Fury, back in the day, boxes much better and tougher than last night against Klitschko and then spends years in the wilderness getting fatter than Ruiz, blamming charly up his nose and making unfortunate pronouncements about religion and homosexulaity.

AJ? The very day after being humiliated he gets back in the gym. He works until he can work no more. He has a tactical plan to get his belt back. He executes it to the letter. If that was a marathon runner or tennis player, journalists would be fighting each other over the superlatives sections of the thesaurus.

Yes the pay day (and PPV rates) were ludicrous. I can understand most Brighton fans absolutely loathing the Hearns - I've never forgiven Barry. But, at the end of the day, all AJ has done is get his belts back in a pre-negotiated rematch clause and shown absolute dedication and professionalism to do so. That's what sport is all about.

Where I agree with the criticism is that he now needs to fight Wilder. A third fight against fat boy would be a joke.

Masterclass though? A masterclass is Calzaghe vs Lacy or Ali vs Cleveland Williams not last night.

In the rare moments of success Ruiz had last night, Joshua still looked vulnerable and a more conditioned fighter rather than someone spending too many days in Taco Bell would have finished him.
 




BensGrandad

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It was a masterclass in as much as he did exactly what was needed to get the result without any undue pressure being put on himself with no momentary lapses. I am sure that him and Hearn will go for a couple of mandatory defences and then a unification bout, which will net millions
 


big nuts

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It was a masterclass in as much as he did exactly what was needed to get the result without any undue pressure being put on himself with no momentary lapses. I am sure that him and Hearn will go for a couple of mandatory defences and then a unification bout, which will net millions

Disciplined yes. Masterclass no. When your opponent has the mobility of Jabba The Hut it’s very easy to box to plan and stay out of reach.

Ruiz was so cumbersome he couldn’t get his feet close enough to land. The weight played a big part and the post fight interview was telling from Ruiz.

“I partied for 3 months and didn’t train properly”.

Let’s see Joshua perform the same against a “live” opponent and then he will get the plaudits across the board.
 


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