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The Rivet

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Aug 9, 2011
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Well this is my view.

Adam Johnson guilty 12 month suspended sentence. Big pay out to chav family.

Johnson going on TV to say how stupid he has been, and will go on a course set by the police to learn his lesson.

Johnson career can continue, everyone happy.

No, sorry no. He should accept he has been a sexual opportunist and accept the prison sentence that was coming. He was also in a position of great influence. That will all be taken into account by the judge.
 




The Rivet

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Aug 9, 2011
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Given the type of porn he was in possession of I hope they dont show Disney's Beauty and the Beast in prison as I would expect Johnson to get very excited at the prospect of watching that

You may laugh at that but back in Apr 2014 the film Lolita starring Jeremy Irons (I think) was on Film4. Prisoners usual receive that channel. That night the signal was cut to the sex offender wings!
 


dangull

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Feb 24, 2013
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FFS what was the sentence that the Pistorious guy got for murdering his girl friend in the toilet?
 


The Rivet

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Aug 9, 2011
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FFS what was the sentence that the Pistorious guy got for murdering his girl friend in the toilet?

Dan please calm down. We all have views on what is acceptable and what is not. We cannot keep on about foreign countries laws. Accept that you have given 'air' to that anomaly and leave it at that. Otherwise you may end up being associated with the notorious 'PIE' organisation. Do yourself a favour mate. Pipe down. Go to bed.
 










dangull

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Feb 24, 2013
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Dan please calm down. We all have views on what is acceptable and what is not. We cannot keep on about foreign countries laws. Accept that you have given 'air' to that anomaly and leave it at that. Otherwise you may end up being associated with the notorious 'PIE' organisation. Do yourself a favour mate. Pipe down. Go to bed.
You are quite right,i had a few a drinks and now off to bed. I will realise I am probably totally wrong in the morning
 




The Rivet

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Aug 9, 2011
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I'll let Thunder Bolt answer this:-

Funny that, when I worked in Travel 'moons' ago the EU advised that incorrect travel advice on Paperwork, passports and travel inoculations was a liable 'misdemeanour'. This country made it a criminal offence. No other eu country did. For them it was a civil matter.
 


Sheebo

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Sheebo

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Fair sentence for me. This wasn't a 15 yr old tarted up to pass for 18 in a nightclub with a bit of drunken fumbling. He groomed her

The second it became apparent that she was only just 15 (and he knew this) and he didn't meet her out in a pub or club, the whole case seemed far more serious than most / some had initially assumed.
 




The Rivet

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Aug 9, 2011
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The second it became apparent that she was only just 15 (and he knew this) and he didn't meet her out in a pub or club, the whole case seemed far more serious than most / some had initially assumed.

Where did he meet her?
 




oneillco

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Feb 13, 2013
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Frankly sickened by the apologists on here. Clearly some people don't understand morality or social responsibility let alone long-term grooming, the control it seeks to exert, and the mental harm it can do. A child's life could be irreparably harmed, she has already attempted to take her life, but never mind as long as some minor celebrity gets his rocks off it must be the law that's at fault.

I also imagine that most of the apologists are not parents; 15 year olds are children...
 




dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Burgess Hill
Frankly sickened by the apologists on here. Clearly some people don't understand morality or social responsibility let alone long-term grooming, the control it seeks to exert, and the mental harm it can do. A child's life could be irreparably harmed, she has already attempted to take her life, but never mind as long as some minor celebrity gets his rocks off it must be the law that's at fault.

Nailed it. If it was my daughter I'd possibly risk everything to kick the living daylights out of him. I suspect some of his new pals might feel the same
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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It now appears that it isn't a result of him being a young millionaire footballer but the result of him having some serious underlying problems and then becoming a young millionaire footballer.

Toxic mix we've seen before. Imagine this in normal life. Someone has some bad problems - alcolism, addiction to drugs, attracting to under age girls and then someone gives them a stash of money because what they are good at in unaffected by their problems.

Has to to be a responsibility (not fault) on the Football Business to put checks in place to as much as they can ensure this doesn't happen. Same in the entertainment / care industry which I don't have to remind people about.

Not environments where if happens quite regularly, but an environment where it can happen quite easily.

Does that excuse him ? Nope, but everything has to be done to stop idiots like him doing the same again.

Positively makes me think of players like Caldy and even Craig Bellamy who use the overpaid circus to do something positive.

The point I think is not what footballers are paid, but the age at what they are being paid it.
 
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Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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Hove
It now appears that it isn't a result of him being a young millionaire footballer but the result of him having some serious underlying problems and then becoming a young millionaire footballer.

Toxic mix we've seen before. Imagine this in normal life. Someone has some bad problems - alcolism, addiction to drugs, attracting to under age girls and then someone gives them a stash of money because what they are good at in unaffected by their problems.

Has to to be a responsibility (not fault) on the Football Business to put checks in place to as much as they can ensure this doesn't happen. Same in the entertainment / care industry which I don't have to remind people about.

Not environments where if happens quite regularly, but an environment where it can happen quite easily.

Does that excuse him ? Nope, but everything has to be done to stop idiots like him doing the same again.

Positively makes me think of players like Caldy and even Craig Bellamy who use the overpaid circus to do something positive.

The point I think is not what footballers are paid, but the age at what they are being paid it.

They train what, 4 mornings or so a week? To coach kids I had to undertake an FA Level 1 that included a Child Protection module. Think the FA and the PFA need to do more to ensure young players are attending educational classes after training, maybe to the age of 24 or something, or even their whole careers. Financial awareness / tax laws / accounting, gambling issues, child protection, dangers of drink inc. driving, drugs (recreational and performance enhancing) etc. these and more should be mandatory educational modules that young players have to do to progress. Not completed your required modules, you can't play. You might only be talking 1 or 2 hours a week. Not just for these headline cases, but for footballers who don't plan for a life after their careers, don't invest their earnings wisely for longevity, those that go on to suffer with depression or problems with addition. Most are fine I am sure, but can't hurt to introduce a bit more education into the academy and professional system.

Other professions do this through CPD (Continual Professional Development), an architect is required to do 37 hours of training of various descriptions per year, doctors its something like 40, teachers, engineers all similar. Even as an FA Level 1 I have to do a few hours a year on modules. Surely it is time for football to apply this to footballers?
 








Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Well this is my view.

Adam Johnson guilty 12 month suspended sentence. Big pay out to chav family.

Johnson going on TV to say how stupid he has been, and will go on a course set by the police to learn his lesson.

Johnson career can continue, everyone happy.

Johnson pleaded guilty to two counts, before his not guilty trial on two other counts. He was sacked immediately he pleaded guilty, so there was no question of his career continuing.


Criminal injury compensation is derisory even for bad physical injuries. There never was any question of a big pay out.
Labelling her family as chavs does you no favours whatsoever, although it may ask questions about your attitude to females in general.
 


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