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Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Surely the point of an academy is to develope players to bring into the team or to sell on for a huge amount otherwise why have an academy

My point was merely about the OUTRAGE expressed by all our academy players that they are not being parachuted into the first team beacuse the club has gone and bloody well singed a top player off another club.

There will be no outrage.

:shrug:
 




Blue3

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My point was merely about the OUTRAGE expressed by all our academy players that they are not being parachuted into the first team beacuse the club has gone and bloody well singed a top player off another club.

There will be no outrage.

:shrug:

So are you saying no club can find and develope all the resources from within and not of those individual resources will develope into resources that are required at that moment in time.
Therefore relocation of resources is seen as natural development and not a threat within the football industry while the rest of us has some fear of change to be a success in the football world it's to be embraced
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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So are you saying no club can find and develope all the resources from within and not of those individual resources will develope into resources that are required at that moment in time.
Therefore relocation of resources is seen as natural development and not a threat within the football industry while the rest of us has some fear of change to be a success in the football world it's to be embraced

Yes, if you mean that the development model is mixed. We grow some and at the same time buy some. All the big clubs do it.

The problem at Brighton is perception; when we had only a small pot to piss in, we conspicuously developed our 'development' programme, with all age-teams, down to the under nines, playing the same fomation (Hughton's). Great, but as a consequece we (supporters, well some of us) got it into our heads that all our first teamers (apart from those we singed - first contradiction) will be farmed (or that all those we farmed will become first teamers, unless we deemed them not up to it - the second contradiction).

One or two season loans out does not constitute a birth right to become a first team man and I'm pretty sure our players know that. Even Ben Whatsisname isn't there yet, albeit he is now getting his chance (ditto Alzate etc).

Anway - morning squire :thumbsup:
 


crodonilson

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Villa and Everton interested so that's us out of the running.
 








dazzer6666

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Why would it be?

This. The game is changing for us.....if we can attract players like Lallana pretty much all bets are off in terms of who we can or can’t compete with for signings. Everton and certainly Villa are well within our ability to compete. #teamslikeBrighton eh ? [emoji16][emoji16]

No fanfares, no BS, no media-feeding. Just quietly going about implementing Tony’s masterplan bit by bit.
 


Braggfan

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It doesn't work like that. Young footballers with few or no first team starts are not so precious. In the EPL, clubs buy young players and other players for large sums, regularly. Everyone else just gets on with it. :shrug:

In fairness I think it does work like that to a degree. One of the charges against Hughton was that he didn't bring young players through. We brought in Potter with a remit to develop young players. We brought in Ashworth with a specific remit of "creating a production line from the academy to the first team". So if at the point where our young players like Alzate and Molumby are ready to get a chance in the first team we bring in a player from another club and ship our young players out on loan again, then I think those young players would be entitled to feel let down. It goes in the opposite direction to what the club says its doing with the academy. I don't think any of our youngster would be precious enough to demand to be first team starters, but I think they are completely entitled to expect a chance.
 




Swansman

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This. The game is changing for us.....if we can attract players like Lallana pretty much all bets are off in terms of who we can or can’t compete with for signings. Everton and certainly Villa are well within our ability to compete. #teamslikeBrighton eh ? [emoji16][emoji16]

No fanfares, no BS, no media-feeding. Just quietly going about implementing Tony’s masterplan bit by bit.

Villa and Everton are known to be senseless overspenders though
 


Nameless

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Villa and Everton interested so that's us out of the running.

I think we can definitely attract players over Villa to be honest.. Everton will pay more than us but from a footballing perspective Everton have Walcott, Iwobi, Bernard ect.. They don't need anymore wide players. Also, don't know if you watched them against Blackpool yesterday but they were awful.

I feel like we can already compete with bigger clubs for players and would argue with our style, stadium and how much we've grown over the last ten years players would be excited to play for us over Everton, Villa ect..
 


Nameless

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Would be my number one target can play on either wing, cover at wing back can also play central midfield. Remember when he tore our under 23 side apart years ago. Surprised Arsenal willing to lose him after the whole Gnabry thing.
 




GT49er

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In fairness I think it does work like that to a degree. One of the charges against Hughton was that he didn't bring young players through. We brought in Potter with a remit to develop young players. We brought in Ashworth with a specific remit of "creating a production line from the academy to the first team". So if at the point where our young players like Alzate and Molumby are ready to get a chance in the first team we bring in a player from another club and ship our young players out on loan again, then I think those young players would be entitled to feel let down. It goes in the opposite direction to what the club says its doing with the academy. I don't think any of our youngster would be precious enough to demand to be first team starters, but I think they are completely entitled to expect a chance.

Absolutely this. I don't agree with those clamouring to get this player or that player in to jump ahead of our youngsters. The performances some of our loanees have put in last season have at least earned them a chance of being in the squad, even if not necessarily a first team place.
Clarke, it has been suggested I think, is going back to Derby - his bad luck is that we're so crowded at CB, but a young player who regularly bossed the midfield in the Championship last season (Molumby) is surely worth a punt.
 


Braggfan

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Absolutely this. I don't agree with those clamouring to get this player or that player in to jump ahead of our youngsters. The performances some of our loanees have put in last season have at least earned them a chance of being in the squad, even if not necessarily a first team place.
Clarke, it has been suggested I think, is going back to Derby - his bad luck is that we're so crowded at CB, but a young player who regularly bossed the midfield in the Championship last season (Molumby) is surely worth a punt.

I do understand the desire from fans to sign named playes. And there is a balance because signing players like Lallana was great. But as you say Molumby really came of age last year at Millwall and it would such a shame if he doesn't get a chance. Personally I want to see Alazate and Molumby in the first team rather than sign new players. I genuinley think they have the ability to play in the Prem right now, and the potential to be huge players in the future.
 


peterward

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Errr...Villa and Everton

Bigger grounds and fanbase, but does that matter? If it did Lamptey would've stayed put.

Dont know much about AMN background other than arsenal, but every chance he'd also be impressed by Lancing, TB/Potter Vision, Dan Ashwoth FA connection and Potters Philosophies with younger lads. Add in that we're not a million miles from London, where he's based and I dare say he has friends/social network?

Everton, whilst bigger are a boring club imho, Villa still just one season in. I don't think the ground, size of fanbase or historical successes decades ago will be so prevalent to a young fella who just wants to play.
 




albionfan37

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Absolutely this. I don't agree with those clamouring to get this player or that player in to jump ahead of our youngsters. The performances some of our loanees have put in last season have at least earned them a chance of being in the squad, even if not necessarily a first team place.
Clarke, it has been suggested I think, is going back to Derby - his bad luck is that we're so crowded at CB, but a young player who regularly bossed the midfield in the Championship last season (Molumby) is surely worth a punt.

Yup got to agree re molumby we all keep on that we need a dm and we’ve got a decent one in our midst already. At the very least he deserves a squad spot and if he’s not quite ready we can send him out to a championship club during the domestic window
 


Hugo Rune

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Would be my number one target can play on either wing, cover at wing back can also play central midfield. Remember when he tore our under 23 side apart years ago. Surprised Arsenal willing to lose him after the whole Gnabry thing.

Number two target for me after a striker.

Essentially, we could ship out three of four squad players for this guy reducing our wage bill. I think he is an upgrade on the likes of March, Montoya, Bernardo & Schelotto.
 


The Fits

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Number two target for me after a striker.

Essentially, we could ship out three of four squad players for this guy reducing our wage bill. I think he is an upgrade on the likes of March, Montoya, Bernardo & Schelotto.

Yeah, he fits in with Potter's style of players who can play multiple positions, and you're absolutely right- we could afford to get rid of another defender, a midfielder and a winger if we signed him and that makes a lot of sense given the size of our squad.

Unfortunately, he is being linked with Spurs and Wolves, amongst others, today.
 


Sheebo

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I’m sure Villa and Everton were ‘interested’ in Lallana too. People need to realise we’re established now and can compete amongst ‘interest’ from other clubs now. Villa ffs :lol:
 




vagabond

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May 17, 2019
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This. The game is changing for us.....if we can attract players like Lallana pretty much all bets are off in terms of who we can or can’t compete with for signings. Everton and certainly Villa are well within our ability to compete. #teamslikeBrighton eh ? [emoji16][emoji16]

No fanfares, no BS, no media-feeding. Just quietly going about implementing Tony’s masterplan bit by bit.

Yep, buy all reports Lallana was wanted by a lot of top teams. It really is a statement of intent by the club.

And if you’re a young player, not getting game time, and you see the way we like to play football, with a manger who trusts young players, and sees how Lamptey, Connolly. Ben White , Maupay are getting on it must make us an attractive proposition.

Lamptey especially.
 


GT49er

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Bigger grounds and fanbase, but does that matter? If it did Lamptey would've stayed put.

Dont know much about AMN background other than arsenal, but every chance he'd also be impressed by Lancing, TB/Potter Vision, Dan Ashwoth FA connection and Potters Philosophies with younger lads. Add in that we're not a million miles from London, where he's based and I dare say he has friends/social network?
A good young player, yes - but is he twenty or thirty million pounds better than Alzate or Molumby? Especially as he will want, if not a guaranteed, certainly a regular starting place in CM, where apparently he wants to specialise and make the position his own - so not the left sided Lamptey that some are thinking.
 


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