[TV] After life

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Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Watched the whole series on Sunday, thought it was alright

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Mental Lental

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Jul 5, 2003
2,299
Shiki-shi, Saitama
He does need a good co-writer or script editor though so that it just doesn't sound like Ricky Gervais putting all his opinions down and calling it a script.

Yeah I agree. I still liked it but felt the comedy was a bit subdued perhaps due to the context. I think this missed Stephen Merchant's input who doesn't seem to have been involved at all. Did they have a falling out?
 






Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
I liked it, but went a little downhill towards the end.

Yeah, I would agree with that. Bit of a lazy ending in my opinion, all is cured and he snaps back to life. It's not necessarily unrealistic to life, in my experience, but it didn't make for a particularly good conclusion to the series. I was expecting something to happen with the Geordie girl, but in the end, no. I thought the set up was really good for all the characters, but there wasn't really a strong finish. I doubt there'll be a follow up to it because the premise of the show is concluded now, he's accepted the change in his life and decided to carry on as normal, just without his wife. Again, perhaps it's true to life in that you have to carry on with your life, but it didn't really make for good TV.
 




BRIGHT ON Q

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Jul 5, 2003
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Yeah, I would agree with that. Bit of a lazy ending in my opinion, all is cured and he snaps back to life. It's not necessarily unrealistic to life, in my experience, but it didn't make for a particularly good conclusion to the series. I was expecting something to happen with the Geordie girl, but in the end, no. I thought the set up was really good for all the characters, but there wasn't really a strong finish. I doubt there'll be a follow up to it because the premise of the show is concluded now, he's accepted the change in his life and decided to carry on as normal, just without his wife. Again, perhaps it's true to life in that you have to carry on with your life, but it didn't really make for good TV.

He has always had a 2nd series of everything he has done so wouldn’t be surprised if there is.
 




Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,365
Worthing
Watched the first 3 episodes in 1 go, loved it. Shed a tear and laughed out loud.
 






vegster

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May 5, 2008
28,273
I'm not much of a fan of Gervais these days. Office was ok, I didn't love it, but enjoyed some bits of it. I enjoyed his hosting of the Golden Globes, I quite liked ghost town. But his global success seems to have changed his focus.

But he seems to have grown more focused on causing outrage solely to offend people so he can tell them how wrong they are to be offended. For me, outrage is fine, offence is fine when it is a side effect of something, but when it is the driving force of what you're doing it becomes shallow and petty, and like you're more concerned with the critics than with your audience. It's like his whole act has become "OH? You're 'offended? Well I don't care about you being offended, you being offended means nothing to me. I'm just going to dedicate myself to making sure I offend you more. Because I don't care about you being offended, like."

As for this show in particular, I keep seeing an advert on twitter where someone asks him which five people, dead or alive, who he'd go for, and he replies dead - see? It's funny 'cos he doesn't like people! And I just think that is such an old joke and that's the one they're using to sell the show to me? I'll pass.

Mrs V has been plodding on watching a few episodes while I read, I have little interest in his style of " Cringe Comedy " but I have noticed the series seems to have become a vehicle for him to keep spouting the "C " word on a regular basis, is he trying to cause offence or is he just breaking down barriers or is it simply that he can't be like the truly great comedians of years past that never needed to swear ?
 


Birdie Boy

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Jun 17, 2011
4,394
I did the lot last night. And was forced to watch it after the first one by the missus. I thought it was more sad than funny although there were a few LOL moments. I can't see how there is another series and do hope not.
 




Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
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Bloody Worthing!
Liked this but for me it didn't fully work. One of the things about RG's writing is that many of his characters seem to similar speech patterns - so you can almost hear his voice through the characters. The local free paper context doesn't really convince (what do they do all day?) and the c-bomb is dropped too frequently. Still, a bit like Partridge, a poorish Gervais is still better than 90% of others.
 


Badger

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May 8, 2007
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Mrs V has been plodding on watching a few episodes while I read, I have little interest in his style of " Cringe Comedy " but I have noticed the series seems to have become a vehicle for him to keep spouting the "C " word on a regular basis, is he trying to cause offence or is he just breaking down barriers or is it simply that he can't be like the truly great comedians of years past that never needed to swear ?

Why would he want to be like comedians of the past? Comedy has evolved over the years and he's a comedian of our time. I happen to think he's quite clever in the way he uses swearing for comic effect. I have no problem with comedians swearing if it's used in the right context. I've seen a lot of comedians who swear for the sake of it, without adding to the humour, but I don't think RG does that.


As for After Life, I ploughed through the whole series a couple of weeks ago and really enjoyed it. Probably not his finest work but it had a fair few laugh-out-loud moments.
 


trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
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Hove
I found it reasonably enjoyable with a few moments that made me laugh, although not that much. A bit too sad overall and I thought the final episode was absolutely dire. Teetered over the edge into the sort of sentimental horse-shit that presumably goes down well in the American market. Mostly watchable but if any comedian other than Ricky Gervais had come up with that, it's hard to imagine they'd get another series.
 




vegster

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May 5, 2008
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Why would he want to be like comedians of the past? Comedy has evolved over the years and he's a comedian of our time. I happen to think he's quite clever in the way he uses swearing for comic effect. I have no problem with comedians swearing if it's used in the right context. I've seen a lot of comedians who swear for the sake of it, without adding to the humour, but I don't think RG does that.


As for After Life, I ploughed through the whole series a couple of weeks ago and really enjoyed it. Probably not his finest work but it had a fair few laugh-out-loud moments.

By his choice of language he has managed to isolate the programme, I could never sit and watch this with my daughter and my late mother would have turned off straight away. As I say, it just seems geared up to create a foul mouthed rant every few minutes in the same manner that Ramsey's kitchen nightmares prog was all about him losing his rag and insulting people and calling it entertainment.
 


Badger

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May 8, 2007
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By his choice of language he has managed to isolate the programme, I could never sit and watch this with my daughter and my late mother would have turned off straight away. As I say, it just seems geared up to create a foul mouthed rant every few minutes in the same manner that Ramsey's kitchen nightmares prog was all about him losing his rag and insulting people and calling it entertainment.

You can't please everyone though, can you? As I said, I think a lot of the swearing he uses adds something to the comedy. I fully understand you don't share that opinion and I have no issue with that.

What I do have issue with is talking about "the truly great comedians of the past that never needed to swear." It just seems like a typical "everything was better in the good old days" attitude.
 


vegster

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May 5, 2008
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You can't please everyone though, can you? As I said, I think a lot of the swearing he uses adds something to the comedy. I fully understand you don't share that opinion and I have no issue with that.

What I do have issue with is talking about "the truly great comedians of the past that never needed to swear." It just seems like a typical "everything was better in the good old days" attitude.

It's difficult to explain but having sat through an evening with Jimmy Jones I would never go again, similar after having to sit through some Roy " Chubby " Brown once. Calling people a C and endless use of the F word I just don't find funny. I have also seen Kevin " Bloody " Wilson and at least he is funny with his timing and use of swearing in his songs. Mostly swearing is poor and lazy comedy once you have had your ears blasted by it after the first 20 minutes.
 


Badger

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May 8, 2007
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It's difficult to explain but having sat through an evening with Jimmy Jones I would never go again, similar after having to sit through some Roy " Chubby " Brown once. Calling people a C and endless use of the F word I just don't find funny. I have also seen Kevin " Bloody " Wilson and at least he is funny with his timing and use of swearing in his songs. Mostly swearing is poor and lazy comedy once you have had your ears blasted by it after the first 20 minutes.

Yes, sometimes swearing in comedy is poor and lazy and I don't find it funny. I don't find Roy Chubby Brown in the slightest bit funny. However, sometimes it's great, (in the case of RG IMHO) and I find it hilarious. :shrug:
 






Questions

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Oct 18, 2006
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Mrs V has been plodding on watching a few episodes while I read, I have little interest in his style of " Cringe Comedy " but I have noticed the series seems to have become a vehicle for him to keep spouting the "C " word on a regular basis, is he trying to cause offence or is he just breaking down barriers or is it simply that he can't be like the truly great comedians of years past that never needed to swear ?
Weren’t allowed to swear....
 


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