[Football] Added Time

[Brok]

FDM. The absolute master of time wasting, bar none.

 

[Postman Pat]

If a team is wasting time, then reverse the decision. Eg. if a keeper takes too long to take a goal kick, then it becomes a corner. A throw in one way would become a corner the other way. I would keep the law deliberately vague, eg. as soon as the team is not acting expeditiously then they will be penalised. So even currently unpunishable time wasting like getting a corner and no-one goes over to take it could be punished. Maybe have a "team warning" where the ref tells them that he has seen what they're doing and it's going to be interpreted strictly from now on. (This could be signalled by the ref facing the goal the tome-wasting team is defending, and making a big circle with his arm to indicate a clock. That's a signalled used in rugby league for a team warning for too many fouls.)

I like this idea, team 1-0 up would be less inclined to waste time on a goal-kick if they would then concede a corner and allow the opposition to fill the box.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Absolutely - said this for years.

Would stop time wasting / feigning injury / subs in the 95th minute taking an age to stroll off / keepers taking two minutes over a goal kick etc.

Currently we get about 50 minutes of actual playing time.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

Absolutely. Been advocating this for yonks. Something for the 4th. official to do! Big clocks at the ground so that fans and players can see it - and the moment the ball crosses the touchline or goal-line, or the ref. blows for a foul or an injury, the clock stops: and it doesn't start until the free kick/goal kick/corner/throw in or drop ball is actually taken. 30 minutes (or maybe 35) actual playing time each way (which would probably equate to the duration of a match now). Obviously no added/injury time, as it will already have been taken into account while the clock was stopped.

This

I posted same in a thread on NSC sometime back.
Time-wasting has become a professional art and a solution is needed.

Only down-side may be slowing momentum - but at least the watching fans won't feel they've been robbed of action time.
I know the FA like their rules to be implementable over all levels of football, grass-roots to Prem, but VAR has already broken that mould.

 

[GT49er]

I like the idea. It obliterates time wasting at a stroke. The argument against is that games would take all night, which they would at the moment. But there would be no need for substitutions to take hours etc, because the timewasting isn't achieving anything.

No it wouldn't. Thirty minutes each way with the ball in play would roughly equate to the 45 minutes each way we have at the moment - currently we are actually getting about thirty minutes play each way anyway.

 

[GT49er]

This

I posted same in a thread on NSC sometime back.
Time-wasting has become a professional art and a solution is needed.

Only down-side may be slowing momentum - but at least the watching fans won't feel they've been robbed of action time.
I know the FA like their rules to be implementable over all levels of football, grass-roots to Prem, but VAR has already broken that mould.

Me too! I've posyed pretty much the same thing in the past myself!

 

[GT49er]

It wouldn't obliterate time wasting, because it would still be done to stop momentum and the flow of the game when the other team is on top. And also when a team is knackered and under the cosh they could use such stoppages to their advantage. If there's a clock that stops, then the ref isn't going to be handing out yellow cards to easily, so we'd end up with more time wasting than we have now.

Not at all. If a team is knackered and is just hanging around trying to get their breath back before taking the kick (of whatever sort) or the throw in, the ref gives the ball to the other side and invites them to carry on playing on their own until such time as the first team chooses to join in again.

 

[Brighthelmstone]

I like a lot of these ideas, but wouldn't it be simpler if the ref just grew a pair and book players every time! If you're not injured and escorted off the pitch then once your subbed you have x seconds to leave to the nearest edge of the pitch or your booked etc. Same for injuries as mentioned, if you are in need of medical attention then you leave the pitch and the game continues whilst your leaving. Any other 'injuries' play just continues on.
Things like delayed leaving the pitch can even be done retrospectively with regards to issuing cards.

My pet peeve is crowding the ref for everything. Shame they don't just start yellow carding every one of them that does that, excluding the captain.

All of these things can be controlled better if players understood that the Ref is in charge of the game. For all its faults the perception of Rugby Union is that the ref commands respect and is listened to, so much better. Sadly the clubs and players/managers are the real power.

 

[Triggaaar]

Not at all. If a team is knackered and is just hanging around trying to get their breath back before taking the kick (of whatever sort) or the throw in, the ref gives the ball to the other side and invites them to carry on playing on their own until such time as the first team chooses to join in again.

That's not what happens now and there's less chance of it happening if we stopped the clock. If you're suggesting the ref gives the ball to the other side when there is time wasting, we don't need the clock to stop, we can just start giving the ball to the other side now.

 

[GT49er]

That's not what happens now and there's less chance of it happening if we stopped the clock. If you're suggesting the ref gives the ball to the other side when there is time wasting, we don't need the clock to stop, we can just start giving the ball to the other side now.

Yes we could - but the solution with the clock is much better.

 

[beorhthelm]

other than when theres a stoppage for injury, just dont see the problem. its part of the game, always been there. and yet another rule seperating the top tiers from the lower leagues. players will still slope off its to their advantage.
where there is an injury requiring physio, then the ref should be actually stopping his watch so we get a fair amount of time added on.

 

[raymondo]

Or like Rugby, the next time it goes out of play or is a dead ball?

Fair point... I'm surprised rugby doesn't blow the whistle exactly on 80 minutes.

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

Fair point... I'm surprised rugby doesn't blow the whistle exactly on 80 minutes.

Not sure the the egg chasing / pee drinking gang do, but I think the ball needs to go into touch or be dead.

 

[portlock seagull]

It’s funny that all these adjustments and so called advancements are because of, in a nutshell, players and managers cheating - because the game’s financial rewards incentivises them to do so.

The reintroduction of sportsmanship would resolve a lot but that’s never going to happen!

 

[raymondo]

Not sure the the egg chasing / pee drinking gang do, but I think the ball needs to go into touch or be dead.

Yeah, you are correct, but it seems at odds with the rest of the game being timed exactly when the ball is live...aahh, maybe that's their point...the ball is live so lets play til it ain't.