Adams MUST stay

[Pavilionaire]

We all wanted it to work for Micky, we really did, but its all been such a spectacular FAILURE and you can't get much more spectacular than getting deprived of a trip to Wembley by the team bottom of the league who were gifted a goal and a sending off to help them on their way.

 

[Scoffers]

completely agree with you

Part of the problem this season has been fans expectation level, some demanded that we beat last seasons (lucky 7th IMO) finish and when we didn't have a great start to our home campaign, instyead of supporting the players, manager etc, and trying to encourage them on, they chose instead to heap more pressure on them, to highlight every mistake, and generally destroy any confidence or belief the manager and staff were trying to build.

I would bet that had negative McGhee still been in charge and we were in the same boat, the moaners wouldn't be on his back as he would still be trotting out his "the players arn't good enough tripe" and they would be lapping it up and agreeing, cos its far easier to create a scapegoat rather than try to actually lift and motivate players lacking confidence, something Adams has got alot of stick for this season.

Seems to me that too many of our supporters have become too politicised, they have to have a hate figure, (LDC, FPC etc) someone to fight against, but since the ground has been approved and work has started, there focus has shifted to elsewhere, be it a player struggling for form when returning from injury, (Hawkins) or Adams for failing to be top after a couple of games, having lost the ability to have any patience what so ever, afterall, a season is 46 league matches not 5, in the same way during a home game, if we go behind after 10 minutes, its not all over, we still have 80 minutes to turn it around, which sums up todays society where everything has to be instant.

Withdean is far from ideal, but we only have a couple of season left until we have our new home so patience is needed and we should try to make the best out of a bad job.

We are not relegated yet, and with the support the fans can give the team and with a win or two under our belts, the confidence will return to the side and we will improve greatly and climb to safety.

Nah, bollocks, Adams OUT

 

[Mr Blunt]

completely agree with you

Part of the problem this season has been fans expectation level, some demanded that we beat last seasons (lucky 7th IMO) finish and when we didn't have a great start to our home campaign, instyead of supporting the players, manager etc, and trying to encourage them on, they chose instead to heap more pressure on them, to highlight every mistake, and generally destroy any confidence or belief the manager and staff were trying to build.

I would bet that had negative McGhee still been in charge and we were in the same boat, the moaners wouldn't be on his back as he would still be trotting out his "the players arn't good enough tripe" and they would be lapping it up and agreeing, cos its far easier to create a scapegoat rather than try to actually lift and motivate players lacking confidence, something Adams has got alot of stick for this season.

Seems to me that too many of our supporters have become too politicised, they have to have a hate figure, (LDC, FPC etc) someone to fight against, but since the ground has been approved and work has started, there focus has shifted to elsewhere, be it a player struggling for form when returning from injury, (Hawkins) or Adams for failing to be top after a couple of games, having lost the ability to have any patience what so ever, afterall, a season is 46 league matches not 5, in the same way during a home game, if we go behind after 10 minutes, its not all over, we still have 80 minutes to turn it around, which sums up todays society where everything has to be instant.

Withdean is far from ideal, but we only have a couple of season left until we have our new home so patience is needed and we should try to make the best out of a bad job.

We are not relegated yet, and with the support the fans can give the team and with a win or two under our belts, the confidence will return to the side and we will improve greatly and climb to safety.

Again could not agree more with you. Last season i remember it, when we lost it was "Wilkins is leaning his trade and is up and coming, so not his fault”

This season "Adams is a dinosaur who has lost the plot” May I add they are 8 months apart in ages so this dinosaur crap does not make sense.

 

[Mr Blunt]

Micky should stay but after hearing his interview tonight there is no chance he will. A sad day, and yet again the players get away with it.

If this is the case this is a sad day a true albion legend.

 

[Amsterdam Albion]

A very sad day indeed. Another manager hounded out by the totally out of touch morons who clamour for the sacking of a manager every few months. No sense of context or patience with these people.

I also find it strange he would go after tonight. For a start, it's the league position he'll be judged on, and tonight was not a league game. Secondly, we didn't actually lose!

I don't want him hounded out but can you justify / explain some of his many bizarre decisions ?

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

completely agree with you

Part of the problem this season has been fans expectation level, some demanded that we beat last seasons (lucky 7th IMO) finish and when we didn't have a great start to our home campaign, instyead of supporting the players, manager etc, and trying to encourage them on, they chose instead to heap more pressure on them, to highlight every mistake, and generally destroy any confidence or belief the manager and staff were trying to build.

I would bet that had negative McGhee still been in charge and we were in the same boat, the moaners wouldn't be on his back as he would still be trotting out his "the players arn't good enough tripe" and they would be lapping it up and agreeing, cos its far easier to create a scapegoat rather than try to actually lift and motivate players lacking confidence, something Adams has got alot of stick for this season.

Seems to me that too many of our supporters have become too politicised, they have to have a hate figure, (LDC, FPC etc) someone to fight against, but since the ground has been approved and work has started, there focus has shifted to elsewhere, be it a player struggling for form when returning from injury, (Hawkins) or Adams for failing to be top after a couple of games, having lost the ability to have any patience what so ever, afterall, a season is 46 league matches not 5, in the same way during a home game, if we go behind after 10 minutes, its not all over, we still have 80 minutes to turn it around, which sums up todays society where everything has to be instant.

Withdean is far from ideal, but we only have a couple of season left until we have our new home so patience is needed and we should try to make the best out of a bad job.

We are not relegated yet, and with the support the fans can give the team and with a win or two under our belts, the confidence will return to the side and we will improve greatly and climb to safety.

What part of Cloud Cuckoo Land do you live in?

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Nah, bollocks, Adams OUT

great, another person (can't really use the word fan here) who would rather see the club fail than actually bother to get behind the team and try to encourage them to get the best out of them, bet your the sort of "fan" we seem to have picked alot of up recently that like to sit there and tel;l our players that they are shit and to go to play conference football just as they are coming on to try to turn the match around, hardly the sort of boost of players need.

Also i bet your also one of these who keeps classing Adams and Booker as "Sunday league / conferance standard managers / coaches, but conveniently chooses to forget their previous achievements at the club when i'd bet no one would every have said that about them, - whats changed in that time, very little bar the crowds attitude and increased negativity

I see the moaning ALL season has worked wonders so far hasn't it, usually followed by "well I've paid for my ticket so i'm entitled to moan" - If thats the case, why turn up, if all you do turn up for is to be able to complain and then try to convince yourself it in the interests of the club.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Again could not agree more with you. Last season i remember it, when we lost it was "Wilkins is leaning his trade and is up and coming, so not his fault”

This season "Adams is a dinosaur who has lost the plot” May I add they are 8 months apart in ages so this dinosaur crap does not make sense.

Except there is one flaw in your argument, this time last season we were not in a relegation battle, so the excuses for Wilkins must have been less because we obviously lost less!

 

[Pavilionaire]

Outside the top few teams in the country there's not much evidence to show that those managers who are given extra chances to succeed do end up delivering the goods.

It is a football cliche that managers generally aren't given long enough, but if that IS the case there are 90-odd chairman repeatedly getting it wrong year in, year out.

The fact is modern day footballers are fickle creatures and it's tough to keep everyone focused. One minute Paul Jewell is God, the next he's crap. One minute Mick McCarthy can't win a match, the next he's top of the Championship.

We need a guy who can keep us up then help give us a crack at promotion over the next couple of years, a bloke who's been in that environment and is still hungry with a point to prove. Dowie is the man.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

A very sad day indeed. Another manager hounded out by the totally out of touch morons who clamour for the sacking of a manager every few months. No sense of context or patience with these people.

I also find it strange he would go after tonight. For a start, it's the league position he'll be judged on, and tonight was not a league game. Secondly, we didn't actually lose!

Yes the league position the one where we are actually in the relegation zone. Lets have lots of patience for a manager who quite clearly is not the same man we used to know and love.
Face it, Mickey has lost it and unfortunatley that means he has to go.

 

[Silent Bob]

Even Adams has accepted he's not up to it. Honestly can't fathom why people can't see it is the management that's the problem. Maybe they don't want to.

 

[Fred Oliver - Legend]

Even Adams has accepted he's not up to it. Honestly can't fathom why people can't see it is the management that's the problem. Maybe they don't want to.

i think your probably right, i'm off to bed now and the first thing i'm gonna do in the morning is to check that he's still here, but i'm expecting bad news, both on here and the argus site, thanks for trying Micky, your still a legend.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

What part of Cloud Cuckoo Land do you live in?

The part where i actually bother to watch what happens on the pitch and understand i am watching league 1 football, not premiership as some seem to expect from us

Not where i just look at results, like some we have and draw my own conclusions as to how we played, not we haven't won so we must have played shit as seems to be a common theme nowadays, even after those who actually bothered to attend disagree.

Tell me, do you think its justifiable that one of our players, someone who was one of our key players last season in Dean Cox, should be told to fcuk off to the conference just as he is being subbed onto the pitch. - what sort of work environment have you seem where this sort of motivation technique works to achieve the best results? what assounded me on Saturday was one comment i heard, where someone had been shouting abuse at certain players all game, and then said " their heads have dropped, I don't understand it, why? (simple again, poor form, compounded by having to suffer idiots abuse every game)


Simple fact - Teams under pressure perform poorly, teams with confidence play well, these moaning fans have been knocking any confidence out of the players all season. Hawkins is a classic example, played well early season, got injured, was rushed back too early by Adams when we were lacking, so his form suffered, then some "fans" turned on him, made him a scapegoat and shattered the players confidence, result poor form.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

The part where i actually bother to watch what happens on the pitch and understand i am watching league 1 football, not premiership as some seem to expect from us

Not where i just look at results, like some we have and draw my own conclusions as to how we played, not we haven't won so we must have played shit as seems to be a common theme nowadays, even after those who actually bothered to attend disagree.

Tell me, do you think its justifiable that one of our players, someone who was one of our key players last season in Dean Cox, should be told to fcuk off to the conference just as he is being subbed onto the pitch. - what sort of work environment have you seem where this sort of motivation technique works to achieve the best results? what assounded me on Saturday was one comment i heard, where someone had been shouting abuse at certain players all game, and then said " their heads have dropped, I don't understand it, why? (simple again, poor form, compounded by having to suffer idiots abuse every game)


Simple fact - Teams under pressure perform poorly, teams with confidence play well, these moaning fans have been knocking any confidence out of the players all season. Hawkins is a classic example, played well early season, got injured, was rushed back too early by Adams when we were lacking, so his form suffered, then some "fans" turned on him, made him a scapegoat and shattered the players confidence, result poor form.

I don't think what was said to Cox is acceptable, abusing players personally is not right and is something that I do not agree with.
However your argument that the negative comments from the fans is the reason why are doing so badly is uttter rubbish.
It is because we have a once great manager of ours currently in charge who has lost it as a football manager, nothing more, nothing less.
I like the part where you say Hawkins was rushed back too early by Adams but then balme the fans getting on his back as for it poor form!

 

[Djmiles]

Part of the problem this season has been fans expectation level, some demanded that we beat last seasons (lucky 7th IMO) finish

Incorrect. I didn't expect to be beating the 7th place from last season, but I did expect to stay clear of the relegation zone.

The team which was around before all the loan signings came in was generally the same core which got us 7th last season. Kuipers, Elphick, Whing, Cox, Murray, Forster, Richards.

Micky has come in, added a few additions to the squad and done sod all all season. Now, if the squad is essentially the same, then something must have changed. Can anyone guess what it is?

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Incorrect. I didn't expect to be beating the 7th place from last season, but I did expect to stay clear of the relegation zone.

The team which was around before all the loan signings came in was generally the same core which got us 7th last season. Kuipers, Elphick, Whing, Cox, Murray, Forster, Richards.

Micky has come in, added a few additions to the squad and done sod all all season. Now, if the squad is essentially the same, then something must have changed. Can anyone guess what it is?

fans expectations

Had we won an early game at Withdean, it would have been a weight of the managers back, he has been put under enormous pressure this season to be an instant success, it took a season last time round, so why was it only a handful of games before people sarted calling for him to be sacked? we were mid table and had most of the season in front of us, hardly panic stations or all over was it ?

 

[Djmiles]

fans expectations

Had we won an early game at Withdean, it would have been a weight of the managers back, he has been put under enormous pressure this season to be an instant success, it took a season last time round, so why was it only a handful of games before people sarted calling for him to be sacked? we were mid table and had most of the season in front of us, hardly panic stations or all over was it ?

Please do tell what these "expectations" were, because I'm dying to know.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Please do tell what these "expectations" were, because I'm dying to know.

Automatic promotion to the championship, a season there (next year, to show demand to potential investors) or at the very least play-offs.
plenty of threads about it when Adams took over.

Ask yourself, if at the end of this season we finished 16th, ready for a push for promotion next season - would / should this be seen as acceptable? - to alot of vocal people on here and at Withdean i would say no

I am not saying everyone has that view, but there is definitely alot of "fans" out there who have given up on the team and believe we will be relegated despite having alot of games left this season, or had brought season tickets expecting instant success, and voice their displeasure at what they see as we cant get the promotion they crave this season