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Feb 8, 2005
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Honestly think it would be a bad move for him. Sacked after messing up big time here, rebuilding his reputation at Port Vale only to jump ship some 18 months for a struggling championship side with a lack of money. What happens if he fails there and gets the boot who the hell would touch him with his recent track record.
 








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Anybody who watched us from 1995 to 1999 and doesn't think Micky Adams is one of the true LEGENDS of BHAFC is an absolute dick in my opinion.

I can't believe some of the stuff being used to criticise him. "He wasn't a very nice man", "he wanted the Southampton job", "he didn't talk to the fans", "he was arrogant" blah blah blah. Who gives a shit? He turned a total disgrace of a club into champions, and for that he is welcome to come back and fail as many more times as he likes by me, because nothing will ever ruin that.

Not for the first time, you're deliberately missing the point. With a couple of exceptions, people are not critical in any way of his first spell. Many have been very specific that the SHAMBLES of his second spell, has in no WAY diminished their memories of what he achieved first time round. Doesn't alter the fact that it WAS a shambles though, and one entirely of his own making. Everything he did was shockingly rubbish, from start to finish - if he'd won the Champions League first time round, it wouldn't change that.
 




Deano's Invisible Pants

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Mar 1, 2008
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Why? Because I think Adams is a ****?

Adams soon got found out at Leicester and then once again at Coventry

Really, I thought he took an already relegated Leicester team straight back into the Premier League at the first attempt?

Also, didn't he save Coventry from almost certain relegation in his first season and then take them to a position just outside the playoffs the following year?

You're right though, these clubs have really hit the heights since his departure (under much better managers obviously).
 


Deano's Invisible Pants

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I am utterly gobsmacked by all this Adams bashing. Second time round, fair enough - a complete failure and embarrassment. First time round - put our club on the map. Put together a double Championship winning team by himself. I don't give a flying f*** if he was lucky in getting the players he did or if he was arrogant - we were winning and playing bloody well. I also tend to think that the arrogance of Adams in his first spell with us was what made him such an effective manager for us. And for those saying he never had any time for the fans - what about when he turned up at the Falmer march whilst manager of Leicester (recently beaten by our boys)? I cannot believe that anyone can have anything but complete admiration for what Micky Adams did for our football club during his first spell here.

This. Absolutely no defence at all for a woeful 2nd spell, but he should be remembered as the chief architect of two (historically very rare) Championships as well as for his continued support for the club after he left (as demonstrated by his participation in the Falmer march).
 


Deano's Invisible Pants

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Honestly think it would be a bad move for him. Sacked after messing up big time here, rebuilding his reputation at Port Vale only to jump ship some 18 months for a struggling championship side with a lack of money. What happens if he fails there and gets the boot who the hell would touch him with his recent track record.

Agreed. If he can replicate with Vale what he did for us first time around, that would be a great outcome for him.
 




Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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This. Absolutely no defence at all for a woeful 2nd spell, but he should be remembered as the chief architect of two (historically very rare) Championships as well as for his continued support for the club after he left (as demonstrated by his participation in the Falmer march).
Anyone dismissing his achievements in those first 2 years is being unfair, but lets not pretend he was Gods gift to football management.

Firstly, that title he won (and he only won one title) was certainly rare, but then I'd say we haven't been treated as badly by other managers since then either. The way he touted himself for bigger jobs while in charge here was shocking. Peter Taylor did it the right way. He was here for half a season, won the title, then told the board what he needed for a tilt in the division above. He left giving the Albion the whole close season to sort out a replacement, conducting himself professionally throughout.
 


Pavilionaire

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Given that we're so close to Falmer we should surely be hoping Adams gets the Blades gig? He's sure to make them relegation candidates, so the more teams struggling in a division we hope to get promoted into the better.
 


Deano's Invisible Pants

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Anyone dismissing his achievements in those first 2 years is being unfair, but lets not pretend he was Gods gift to football management.

Firstly, that title he won (and he only won one title) was certainly rare, but then I'd say we haven't been treated as badly by other managers since then either. The way he touted himself for bigger jobs while in charge here was shocking. Peter Taylor did it the right way. He was here for half a season, won the title, then told the board what he needed for a tilt in the division above. He left giving the Albion the whole close season to sort out a replacement, conducting himself professionally throughout.

I think we're probably agreeing violently here. Not a football management god, no, but quite a successful lower league manager, unlike the total mug that some on here portray him as. I would also concede he had more than a touch of arrogance about him. At the end of the day, the same could be said of many managers. Take Cloughie - now there's a guy who really did tout himself to other clubs - AND left BEFORE getting us promoted!
 






El Presidente

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Anyone dismissing his achievements in those first 2 years is being unfair, but lets not pretend he was Gods gift to football management.

Firstly, that title he won (and he only won one title) was certainly rare, but then I'd say we haven't been treated as badly by other managers since then either. The way he touted himself for bigger jobs while in charge here was shocking. Peter Taylor did it the right way. He was here for half a season, won the title, then told the board what he needed for a tilt in the division above. He left giving the Albion the whole close season to sort out a replacement, conducting himself professionally throughout.

But Peter Taylor was given grief on NSC too, despite the team having the fewest defeats that season in the club's history.

MA was clearly very lucky first time round, signing Zamora, FDM, Cullip, Oatway, Carpenter, Morgan, Brooker, Rogers and a few others too, anyone could have done it shirley?
 


Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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But Peter Taylor was given grief on NSC too, despite the team having the fewest defeats that season in the club's history.
I know, and I don't agree with it. Taylor was honourable in the way he left the club.

MA was clearly very lucky first time round, signing Zamora, FDM, Cullip, Oatway, Carpenter, Morgan, Brooker, Rogers and a few others too, anyone could have done it shirley?
I know you're being a bit churlish here, and they were great players. However, apart from Kuipers, Adams had worked with every single one of those players at Fulham where they won the league. I think it's fair to say that the fact he knew what to expect of these players, plus the fact he was given the budget to sign them, probably made his job considerably easier.

But in any case, I'm not disputing he was a great manager for us first time round. It's just that the way he left the club leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. Plus the fact that the two times I met him, he came across as a bit of an arse to be honest, which left me a bit disappointed in him!
 




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How can anyone be surprised by a) the bashing Adams has got on here, b) the blind love he is getting on here? This is NSC, for goodness sakes.

He is part of our history, he has played a massively great part in our history and a massively bad part in our history. I don't think we should ignore either period.
 


MikeySmall

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Jul 7, 2003
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I know, and I don't agree with it. Taylor was honourable in the way he left the club.

I know you're being a bit churlish here, and they were great players. However, apart from Kuipers, Adams had worked with every single one of those players at Fulham where they won the league. I think it's fair to say that the fact he knew what to expect of these players, plus the fact he was given the budget to sign them, probably made his job considerably easier.

But in any case, I'm not disputing he was a great manager for us first time round. It's just that the way he left the club leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. Plus the fact that the two times I met him, he came across as a bit of an arse to be honest, which left me a bit disappointed in him!

Paul Rogers never played for Fulham
 




El Presidente

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Why? Because I think Adams is a ****?

Adams was never liked by allot of fans at the Albion. You very rarely heard his name sung and when it was a vast majority of people wouldn't join in.

Adams got MASSIVELY lucky first time round with us. He inherited and improved a side at Fulham that was good enough to get out of the bottom division. Al Fayed then came in and wanted Fulham to go places so he got rid of the 4th division rubbish including Adams. I think it was at this point Adams grew that massive chip he has on his shoulder because he wasn't given the chance. That chip saw him got sacked from 3 jobs because he was/is an arrogant shit. When he came to us he picked up the rubbish that Fayed threw out because he knew it was good enough to get out the bottom division added Zamora and bang that side were suddenly good enough to get out of the 3rd division. But his ego got the better of him before that and after a hissy fit about not even getting considered for the Southampton job (probably because anyone with an ounce of sense and knew anything about football knew Adams wasn't a very good manager) he f***ed off to become a number 2. When Bassett f***ed off and he got his chance at a big club with big ambitions he was f***ed because all he knew was the side he had at Fulham and Brighton, the same side that had massively over-achieved and plain and simply weren't good enough to play in the second division. Adams soon got found out at Leicester and then once again at Coventry and I think then he realised what most people knew, that he wasn't actually that good which is when we stupidly gave him another chance. The bloke wasn't the same arrogant tosser that left, he was a broken man! Now he's had a little bit of success again (once again using his cast offs) he is starting to give it berty big bollocks again.

He was and always will be a massive wanker who had f*** all time for the fans or his players and was never prepared to except any responsibility for the actions of his team, it was always someone else fault.

Quite frankly f*** him, I hope he fails where ever he is.


I have no great affection for Adams but you revisionist c'unt.

As for 'soon got found out at Leicester' how come they were promoted the first season he was in charge despite having a transfer embargo?

As for gettting lucky with Zamora, that's a complete f***ing insult to all the other decent players he signed when he was here.

I couldn't give a shit whether he is arrogant or not, no one complained about the ego of the likes of Mullery or Clough when they were here, and I don't hear too many Chelsea fans saying they are glad Mourinho has departed due to the high opinion he has of himself.

It didn't work out for him second time around, I'm as baffled about his treatment of Virgo as much as anyone else, but to wish him failure wherever he goes just shows Arthur to be a cuntybollocks shitface of the highest order. I hope you have SPROUTS and nothing but SPROUTS on Christmas Day, you jumped up pile of horseshit. Go f*** a corpse.
 




Biscuit

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Jul 8, 2003
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Whatever he does I wish him all the best. Did a tremendous job first time round. Yes the second was a disaster but I'll remember him for the wonders he worked down here in his first stint and his vocal support for Falmer in the years that followed.

All the best Mickey and good luck!
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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I know you're being a bit churlish here, and they were great players. However, apart from Kuipers, Adams had worked with every single one of those players at Fulham where they won the league. I think it's fair to say that the fact he knew what to expect of these players, plus the fact he was given the budget to sign them, probably made his job considerably easier.

Adams snaffled Cullip, Carpenter and Brooker from Fulham to play for us in Div 4. Morgan didn't play for us in Div 4.

The others never played for Fulham.
 


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