Actually this was just what England needed

[goldstone]

Because if we had made it to the Euro thingy next summer we would have been embarrassed with this bunch of players.

Now we can have a big f***ing clear out including Barwick and McClaren and most of the players on show tonight.

Clean sheet and start again in time for the World Cup in two years.

New manager.

Agree on a preferred formation (has to be 4-4-2 for English players) and stick to it.

Find players who care about playing for their country.

Maybe everyone will now realise just how shit we are. No more papering over the cracks. No more excuses. We need a complete rethink.

 

[Ernest]

Hopefully people will now look again at the obscene amounts of money paid to these wankers and things change.

 

[Robot Chicken]

Too many foreign players in the Premiership

 

[pasty]

Hopefully people will now look again at the obscene amounts of money paid to these wankers and things change.

Correct.

Too many foreign players in the Premiership

Correct.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

Too many foreign players in the Premiership

In a nutshell. Our three strikers tonight have barely figured in their League teams all season, and that says it all.

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[fosters headband]

Too many foreign players in the Premiership

Correct.

Same thing happened to Italy a few of decades back, so many foreign players in their league the international team became shit.
They reduced the intake of foriegn players coming in and since then the international team has gone from strength to strength..

 

[beorhthelm]

too many foriegners is one side of the coin. im becoming convinced its deeper than that though, why are there not enough quality english players coming trhough to challange? seems theres a problem in the coaching/youth setup.

i dont know how the systems compare and contrast, but look at England and Spain, always underachive, verses Italy and France (recently) consistantly at the top of the game, especially considering the French prefer egg chasing.

 

[The Face]

Yeah ok fair enough perhaps there are too many foreign players in the premiership but to me that's just another excuse.

We didn't deserve to qualify. End of.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I can't be the only one who felt a tiny twinge of disappointment when Crouch equalised.

On the one hand, we would have qualified, true. But on the other, we barely deserved to, either in terms of the game or the campaign as a whole, and by that point, I'd resigned myself quite cheerfully to a decent spring cleaning of the whole England set up. McLaren out, Barwick out, the end of the line for a few of the less committed individuals, and a new broom with some more modern ideas than the 1970s influenced Terry Venables plan.

Put it this way, we've almost without exception (1996) been utter crap at the European Championships, therefore this has only served to spare us agony at a later stage (aka losing on penalties to Portugal).

I just cannot identify with the England players in the same way that I do with the Albion. I'm used to the Albion's occasional incompetence, which makes it all the more exciting when they rise above that. I can accept that the Albion have young and inexperienced players, and tolerate their mistakes. What I can't be arsed with is men who get paid more in a week than the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom earns in an entire year, arsing about for the sake of it, then swanning off in their Ferraris like they couldn't give a shit when they lose to Croatia (and then complaining that they have to play two games in seven days).

The only players in that squad who seem remotely committed to the cause are Richards, Barry, maybe Crouch, and Gary Neville when he plays. The rest can sod off back to their mock Tudor mansions and wallow in fifty pound notes for the rest of their careers for all I care.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

No Pride. No Passion....

They should have just looked at the Nationwide advert behind them....

 

[bristolseagull]

I can't be the only one who felt a tiny twinge of disappointment when Crouch equalised.

are you serious?

jesus christ you miserable shite

 

[pasty]

I can't be the only one who felt a tiny twinge of disappointment when Crouch equalised.

On the one hand, we would have qualified, true. But on the other, we barely deserved to, either in terms of the game or the campaign as a whole, and by that point, I'd resigned myself quite cheerfully to a decent spring cleaning of the whole England set up. McLaren out, Barwick out, the end of the line for a few of the less committed individuals, and a new broom with some more modern ideas than the 1970s influenced Terry Venables plan.

Put it this way, we've almost without exception (1996) been utter crap at the European Championships, therefore this has only served to spare us agony at a later stage (aka losing on penalties to Portugal).

I just cannot identify with the England players in the same way that I do with the Albion. I'm used to the Albion's occasional incompetence, which makes it all the more exciting when they rise above that. I can accept that the Albion have young and inexperienced players, and tolerate their mistakes. What I can't be arsed with is men who get paid more in a week than the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom earns in an entire year, arsing about for the sake of it, then swanning off in their Ferraris like they couldn't give a shit when they lose to Croatia (and then complaining that they have to play two games in seven days).

The only players in that squad who seem remotely committed to the cause are Richards, Barry, maybe Crouch, and Gary Neville when he plays. The rest can sod off back to their mock Tudor mansions and wallow in fifty pound notes for the rest of their careers for all I care.

100% agreement from here.

 

[DJ Leon]

Correct.



Correct.

Italian players are equally as well paid and they won the World Cup.

Foreigners are playing instead of the English lads because they are better. Can we be sure that we'd suddenly be world beaters if we put a limit on the number of foreigners that played. I doubt it.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

I can't be the only one who felt a tiny twinge of disappointment when Crouch equalised.

I just read this.... YES YOU WERE!

 

[hitony]

Hopefully people will now look again at the obscene amounts of money paid to these wankers and things change.

Unfortunatly it is to late, well it will be a long long time before the money side of things change, sadly

 

[Lady Whistledown]

are you serious?

jesus christ you miserable shite

Oi, it wasn't that I didn't want us to go through. But you have to admit, our overall incompetence and McLaren's utter buffoonery would have been completely lost in a wave of Sun-style patriotism had we scraped it!

It was merely that I'd prepared (having been 2-0 down) for the inevitable questioning of his position, and the fact that it looked like we might then squeak through would have covered up a myriad of fundamental flaws.

The greater good, man, the greater good!*



*still wanted to go to Switzerland though

 

[fosters headband]

too many foriegners is one side of the coin. im becoming convinced its deeper than that though, why are there not enough quality english players coming trhough to challange? seems theres a problem in the coaching/youth setup.

i dont know how the systems compare and contrast, but look at England and Spain, always underachive, verses Italy and France (recently) consistantly at the top of the game, especially considering the French prefer egg chasing.

With so much money available in the Premiership, why bother coaching your own players when you can just go and buy all the foreign stars?
There is such an over flow of foreign players they are even spilling over into the lower leagues now,

 

[hitony]

Too many foreign players in the Premiership

Is probably the most sensible post i have read on here tonight, (if not for quite a while)

 

[Questions]

I can't be the only one who felt a tiny twinge of disappointment when Crouch equalised.

On the one hand, we would have qualified, true. But on the other, we barely deserved to, either in terms of the game or the campaign as a whole, and by that point, I'd resigned myself quite cheerfully to a decent spring cleaning of the whole England set up. McLaren out, Barwick out, the end of the line for a few of the less committed individuals, and a new broom with some more modern ideas than the 1970s influenced Terry Venables plan.

Put it this way, we've almost without exception (1996) been utter crap at the European Championships, therefore this has only served to spare us agony at a later stage (aka losing on penalties to Portugal).

I just cannot identify with the England players in the same way that I do with the Albion. I'm used to the Albion's occasional incompetence, which makes it all the more exciting when they rise above that. I can accept that the Albion have young and inexperienced players, and tolerate their mistakes. What I can't be arsed with is men who get paid more in a week than the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom earns in an entire year, arsing about for the sake of it, then swanning off in their Ferraris like they couldn't give a shit when they lose to Croatia (and then complaining that they have to play two games in seven days).

The only players in that squad who seem remotely committed to the cause are Richards, Barry, maybe Crouch, and Gary Neville when he plays. The rest can sod off back to their mock Tudor mansions and wallow in fifty pound notes for the rest of their careers for all I care.

It never ever crossed my mind that it could or would be some sort of twisted justice if England failed to qualify.
Quote :
arsing about for the sake of it, then swanning off in their Ferraris like they couldn't give a shit when they lose to Croatia (and then complaining that they have to play two games in seven days).


Thats so very very wrong and so knee-jerk you should know better. They care. I suppose those tears Beckham shed were from his newly honed acting skills huh.

 

[DJ Leon]

With so much money available in the Premiership, why bother coaching your own players when you can just go and buy all the foreign stars?
There is such an over flow of foreign players they are even spilling over into the lower leagues now,

The foreign ones are BETTER though. Surely an influx of foreign talent should have made our footballers MORE competitive, not less. Competition is recognised as a force for good isn't it?