Academy offers

[sharpey38]

My son has been offered a chance to train with the academy. He is 6 years old and loves his footie.

I'd like to know if anyone else has a child at the academy and what he/we can expect.

Brighton aren't the only club who we have spoken too, but we are both Brighton season ticket holders and he wants to try them out.

Cheers

Which team does your son play for?

 

[Gwylan]

FWIW I have not heard of this being common place in Australia in any sport.

I'd never have guessed

 

[BadFish]

I'd never have guessed

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Lol - The point is that despite a current lul, the Aussies do tend to punch above their weight in sports and in my experience have the attitude and mental strength to make the changes necessary to return to the pinnacle. For the record I am not an Aussie but do have much admiration for how they go about things. Sport, winning, playing your hardest and teamwork are generally prioritized against financial reward.

 

[BadFish]

Why does it mater if people give their kids a couple of quid for scoring a goal? How many people give their kids pocket money? Teaches them that they should get something for nothing.

A little incentive never does any harm.

Why pay your child to do something they want to do anyway?

Why not pay them to do their chores, do extra chores, get good grades in the subjects they struggle with at school........the list is endless.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

That said though this kind of thing is setting them up nicely for the greed and excess of playing football in this day and age. The question I can't help asking is do kids need any more motivation to score a goal? Personally I save the bribes for things my kids don't want to do.

This attitude just adds to the money obsessed, getting something for nothing culture that so many on this board complain about. If this is common practice I don't see things getting any better. What about playing the game for the love of it, what happened to that?

I think you (and many others on this thread) have got entirely the wrong idea about this. It's not 'a bribe', it's a tiny token 'well done'. Or it is in our case, anyhow. Of course these kids are playing for the love of playing. It would be nonsense to suggest otherwise.

 

[martin tyler]

I suggest be careful. He is 6 a should just enjoy playing. My son is 9 now and has been approached by 10-15 clubs at s variety if levels. He however enjoys playing where he is and is undecided if he wants to play full time. Ive told clubs to follow him and come back when he is older if they are still interested. I still get calls every month but politely turn them away.

 

[emphyrian]

Any kid playing football that needs financial gain as an incentive will probably never make it as a pro.
Attitude is as important as ability so giving them money as reward isn't helping them in the longer term IMO.
Any career I might have had was cut very short by injury sadly but my motive for playing the game would never have been for financial reasons. That would have been the bonus side of playing the game that I love.
Just throw your money at supporting him by buying decent boots and any equipment that he needs if you have to but don't give him money for scoring goals. After all, the coaches may not see him as a striker so if he gets coached as a central defender how is he going to respond?

My son is six and really doesn't have a massive grasp of money and its value. He needs £30 to buy himself some new lego thing so by scoring goals he gains money towards this. once his £30 is made and the lego bought, he will select another another prize and will get money towards this for every goal he scores.

As i also said previously my son will play in any position he is asked to play and at u7's is effective in them all. he gets his boots and shin pads for birthdays and xmas from various members of the family.

he plays football in every waking moment he is allowed. before school, during school, after school. training on saturday, matches on sunday. when he cant play football he will watch it on tv either live or one of the many recorded matches that he has saved on sky+. He will then sit there and rewind a pass or goal over and over and then, when he is allowed out will try and replicate said goal or pass.

i'm unsure why my parenting skills are being questioned for giving my son a goal bonus.
we are both in the scouting movement too and i will reward him (probably with money) for achieving his chief scout bronze award.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

My son is six and really doesn't have a massive grasp of money and its value. He needs £30 to buy himself some new lego thing so by scoring goals he gains money towards this. once his £30 is made and the lego bought, he will select another another prize and will get money towards this for every goal he scores.

As i also said previously my son will play in any position he is asked to play and at u7's is effective in them all. he gets his boots and shin pads for birthdays and xmas from various members of the family.

he plays football in every waking moment he is allowed. before school, during school, after school. training on saturday, matches on sunday. when he cant play football he will watch it on tv either live or one of the many recorded matches that he has saved on sky+. He will then sit there and rewind a pass or goal over and over and then, when he is allowed out will try and replicate said goal or pass.

i'm unsure why my parenting skills are being questioned for giving my son a goal bonus.
we are both in the scouting movement too and i will reward him (probably with money) for achieving his chief scout bronze award.

Don't worry about it. You know what is right for your lad.

 

[emphyrian]

So a Brighton season ticket holder's six year old son has been offered a place at Brighton's brand spanking new academy and you post here asking if he should accept it? As "look at me" posts go, that was a dandy. And paying him for scoring goals? At six years old? Jesus fecking Christ, I think I hate you.

I didnt do it as a look at me thread i can promise you that.

i am asking if they believe it is something that i should go with now or like someone else has said to get him to wait and see wether he still enjoys his footie in a few years.

but please hate me if you need too. not a bother to me.

 

[emphyrian]

Don't worry about it. You know what is right for your lad.

thanks

 

[hans kraay fan club]

i am asking if they believe it is something that i should go with now or like someone else has said to get him to wait and see wether he still enjoys his footie in a few years.
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If as suggested above, the idea is that he can continue to play with his mates, at his own club, alongside training with the academy, then I see no downside at all. Go for it.

 

[BadFish]

I think you (and many others on this thread) have got entirely the wrong idea about this. It's not 'a bribe', it's a tiny token 'well done'. Or it is in our case, anyhow. Of course these kids are playing for the love of playing. It would be nonsense to suggest otherwise.

Maybe I shouldn't have called it a bribe, I apologise.

I don't get why they need a tiny token 'well done' surely the joy of playing, scoring winning and an enthusiastic 'well done' from mum or dad is enough?

To me cash rewards just cheapens the experience and suggests to kids that they should be financially rewarded for everything. Along with this i wonder what message it sends out about the other positions on the pitch, do defenders and goalkeepers get paid for keeping clean sheets? Does a midfielder get paid for box to box running, controlling the pace of the game or running the midfield?

I am a firm believer in the power of intrinsic reward over extrinsic reward and that giving extrinsic reward for something that a kid loves to do slowly chips away at the power of that intrinsic reward.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

If as suggested above, the idea is that he can continue to play with his mates, at his own club, alongside training with the academy, then I see no downside at all. Go for it.

Exactly this.

 

[macky]

Things can get very personal on this board .He's a proud parent (and He should be ) So what if He rewards His son
In a way he see's fit Half the lot on her having a go probably aren't parents Show me a man who says he's a perfect parent
And I will show you a liar

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Maybe I shouldn't have called it a bribe, I apologise.

I don't get why they need a tiny token 'well done' surely the joy of playing, scoring winning and an enthusiastic 'well done' from mum or dad is enough?

To me cash rewards just cheapens the experience and suggests to kids that they should be financially rewarded for everything. Along with this i wonder what message it sends out about the other positions on the pitch, do defenders and goalkeepers get paid for keeping clean sheets? Does a midfielder get paid for box to box running, controlling the pace of the game or running the midfield?

I am a firm believer in the power of intrinsic reward over extrinsic reward and that giving extrinsic reward for something that a kid loves to do slowly chips away at the power of that intrinsic reward.

My lad IS a defender. That's why it's only cost me £2 in 14 months...

It's really not the big deal you think. They really ARE playing for the fun of it.

 

[red star portslade]

I suggest be careful. He is 6 a should just enjoy playing. My son is 9 now and has been approached by 10-15 clubs at s variety if levels. He however enjoys playing where he is and is undecided if he wants to play full time. Ive told clubs to follow him and come back when he is older if they are still interested. I still get calls every month but politely turn them away.

Good for you. Very sensible attitude to have. I think its ****ing ludicrous professional clubs tracking six year olds. Let them enjoy playing with their mates.

 

[BadFish]

My son is six and really doesn't have a massive grasp of money and its value. He needs £30 to buy himself some new lego thing so by scoring goals he gains money towards this. once his £30 is made and the lego bought, he will select another another prize and will get money towards this for every goal he scores.

As i also said previously my son will play in any position he is asked to play and at u7's is effective in them all. he gets his boots and shin pads for birthdays and xmas from various members of the family.

he plays football in every waking moment he is allowed. before school, during school, after school. training on saturday, matches on sunday. when he cant play football he will watch it on tv either live or one of the many recorded matches that he has saved on sky+. He will then sit there and rewind a pass or goal over and over and then, when he is allowed out will try and replicate said goal or pass.

i'm unsure why my parenting skills are being questioned for giving my son a goal bonus.
we are both in the scouting movement too and i will reward him (probably with money) for achieving his chief scout bronze award.

Your parenting skills are not being called into question. Are you suggesting they are perfect and you have the perfect decision every time for your child? I get that our love for our kids makes parenting a very emotive subject but surely we are not so precious as to twart discussion into our parenting practices? It is nothing personal, I am sure you are an excellent parent.

this is a discussion forum and surely we are supposed to discuss what is posted, your choice is whether you listen and think about it or not. I noticed a coach posted earlier (I have only scanned this thread so far so am not sure of the exact wording) and said that cash rewards are not allowed at many academies, surely this would get you thinking about the pros and cons of it?

 

[BadFish]

My lad IS a defender. That's why it's only cost me £2 in 14 months...

It's really not the big deal you think. They really ARE playing for the fun of it.

So why waste your money?

If you think it is okay why don't you offer him a cash reward for playing his role well? Maybe a pound for every clean sheet he gets?

Out of interest, how does he feel that the strikers in the team get more money than him because they score all the goals?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

So why waste your money?

If you think it is okay why don't you offer him a cash reward for playing his role well? Maybe a pound for every clean sheet he gets?

Out of interest, how does he feel that the strikers in the team get more money than him because they score all the goals?

He doesn't care. It's not why he plays. It's a bar of chocolate FFS.

 

[throbinson]

what a shame you have just gone a ruined that statement,thats whats wrong with kids footy,parents getting involved

everywhere up and down the ccountry ,parents bribe there kids with money,you then get children not being team players ,and all they focus on is scoring,seen it so many times,if hes good enough he wont need money to prove it

I manage a U8s team and trying to get the kids to pass the ball when parents say they will get £1 or 50p a goal just makes them greedy little buggers