Poyningsgull
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A23 to open all 3 lanes on Tuesday morning
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Captain Sensible
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Great but we now have roadworks at the M23 where it joins the M25.
Poyningsgull
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I go off at Pease Pottage so I'm happy.!
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Cue the middle lane hoggers, thus turning it back into a dual carriageway. Waste of money.
Official Old Man
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Can I butt in here and give an update to the long running roadworks on the seafront road in Brighton, closed when the ceiling fell in underneath.
Thursday 2 Oct they completed the resurfacing of the road ready to reopen this morning, 3rd October, brilliant. This morning half of the westbound carriageway is now closed off and still no right turn into West Street. Meanwhile the ongoing works at the junction of Black Lion St and the seafront are still there with nothing happening now for 5 months. These works have a very expensive digger on site which hasn't moved for months and must be costing someone a fortune to hire.
Thursday 2 Oct they completed the resurfacing of the road ready to reopen this morning, 3rd October, brilliant. This morning half of the westbound carriageway is now closed off and still no right turn into West Street. Meanwhile the ongoing works at the junction of Black Lion St and the seafront are still there with nothing happening now for 5 months. These works have a very expensive digger on site which hasn't moved for months and must be costing someone a fortune to hire.
The Large One
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Seafront diversion update
Following further investigations, we are sorry to announce that the work to repair the seafront arches near West Street is going to take longer than anticipated. We are now estimating that the works will not be complete until early November.
Structural engineers have been working with the property owners to assess the extent of a number of different problems, which are not contained to just one arch. We are working hard with contractors to design safe solutions in some privately owned arches. Finalising and agreeing an acceptable design before any works are carried out is essential, if those businesses are to be able to carrying on trading. It is unfortunate that a main sewer has also collapsed nearby, although this is not connected with the arches properties.
Traffic diversions in place
A contra flow is in place for the short distance between Middle Street and West Street so that traffic can move in both directions.
• Drivers travelling eastbound on the A259 can turn North up West Street
• Drivers travelling westbound on the A259 cannot turn up West Street
• On West Street the road down from the Clock Tower is closed
• You can use Cannon Place to access Churchill Square car parks
• Regency Square car park is available as usual
Please allow extra time for journeys through this area and check this page for further updates.
What’s happening now?
We have begun the work to clear and prop the arches in the Fortune of War. This is the weak area under the road which is affecting the eastbound carriageway.
The area is still closed off to protect the public and the vulnerable areas below the road while the necessary investigation and design work under the road is being carried out. Allowing traffic to continue to cross the weaker areas would damage them further and create greater risk and danger.
When will the work on the King’s Road collapse be completed?
There are three separate sets of work that are required. The complex nature of the repairs needed means the first set of works associated with the collapse in the Fortune of War pub should be finished in early October. This is the weak area under the road which is affecting the eastbound carriageway.
The second set of road works is Southern Water’s emergency work to repair a collapsed/blocked sewage waste pipe at the junction of the A259/Black Lion Street are underway. These works have also taken longer than anticipated due to unforeseen problems and are now understood will be fully completed and the junction reinstated by mid-September.
A third set of works required to strengthen the structure of the Life Bar property within the Arches will begin after the first set of works are complete, and will need the contra-flow traffic management arrangement to be moved onto the westbound carriageway.
At all times, the main road has remained partially open, and will continue to do so throughout any works, by operating with a contraflow.
All the necessary works to make the road and properties safe should be complete by early November.
What measures have been taken to improve traffic flow while the area is fenced off?
We have removed a section of central reservation to improve access into the Old Town area via Middle Street and amending traffic signal timings so these measures will improve traffic flows.
Has the reason for the original collapse of material been established?
The wall between the Fortune of War and the Beach Break Café is part of the arch structure itself, which supports the road and pavement above it. The material collapsed where some internal alterations had previously been made to this wall (possibly over 30 years ago). The work that was done at this time has subsequently failed, but this was only discovered when the wood panelling used to decorate the inside of the Fortune of War in this location was removed by builders, and the loose material above fell in.
Has the integrity of the arch itself at the collapse point been maintained?
This area has been made safe, and the design is being checked to ensure that all the adjacent arches will also be safe.
How much is the repair work expected to have cost upon completion?
It is not possible to estimate this until the more detailed analysis has been fully completed.
Will further exploratory work to investigate the state of the other seaside arches be carried out?
This type of work is undertaken as a matter of course by the council, at least every 2 years for a full inspection as well as annual, visual surveys.
Official Old Man
Uckfield Seagull
Interesting. I own one of the arches, it's the basement of my shop. No one has been down to investigate for 30 odd years.
Official Old Man
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Oh yeh. Better go take a look then. Still there and digger still not moved.
The Large One
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Which arches are in a basement? Where is your shop?
I can't think of a shop where there are seafront arches underneath it.
Agree. Luckily I took the day off on Tuesday to go to the Cardiff game. I wanted to spend some time with my Mum before going to the match. Those road works were causing a big queue on the M25 before that junction and a queue once on the M23. Normally for an evening game I leave work a little early and hit that area at rush hour time, so would have been a great deal worse. On Tuesday it was about 11am so should not have been very busy.
Then they closed the A23 on my way home.
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Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Must admit I wasn't aware of these M23 roadworks - presumably they'll be in full swing tomorrow for my drive to Watford.
Are they bad enough to justify swerving completely and taking the A24 to Junction 9 at Leatherhead ?
Last Friday morning @ 10 o'clock it took an hour from Gatwick north to M25.
matt_32510
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They started in September, going on for quite a few weeks, all to do with bridge repair work.
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Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Shit the bed, maybe Leatherheads the way then.
Keep it quiet though, don't want everyone doing it.
Poyningsgull
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Why didn't you go down the A24?
Wilka
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Will it be open at the normal speed limit of still 40 mph?
To be honest I found less congested over the past few years at peak times with everyone doing 40mph than it was before hand.
To be honest I found less congested over the past few years at peak times with everyone doing 40mph than it was before hand.
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Official Old Man
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I presume you know Brighton seafront. The arches are along the beach prom and the A259 Kings Road is built on top of them, hence the hole in the road when it caved in. Well those arches go all the way back to the buildings on Kings Road. My shop has the arch through to what was a night club and is bricked up halfway across the road. There is a bolted door we could knock through very easily.