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Man of Harveys

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Jul 9, 2003
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Why can't I SEE GOD?
 




Buba

Banned
Mar 3, 2007
189
Israel
Les Biehn said:
Whats a Jew?
Jews are people of the tribe of Judah. The tribe of Judah was one of the 12 tribes of Israel. Israel was Jacob and Israel is the new name that G-d gave to him. Israel had 12 sons who later became the 12 tribes of Israel. These 12 tribes who were slaves in Egypt are the ones with which G-d made his covenant and gave them the Torah and its commandments, commanded them to settle down in the land of Israel - a land that he promised to Jacob hundreds years before - to conquer it and to establish a kingdom of priests.

In 722 B.C. the Assyrians conquered the north part of the Israeli kingdom and exilled 10 tribes (9 tribes plus parts of the Levi tribe who didn't have an estate of their own, parts of the tribe of Levi were scattered amongst all the other tribes) amongst the 12 tribes of the children of Israel and these 10 tribes lost their faith, became gentiles and assimilated with them.

The Jews nowadays worldwide and in Israel are the descendants of 3 tribes: Judah, Levi and Benjamin (and some of them from the tribe of Menashe). Judah was the biggest tribe which settled in the Judean desert, then the Romans who conquered the land of Israel 2000 years ago called all the children of Israel "Jews".
 






Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Buba said:
Jews are people of the tribe of Judah. The tribe of Judah was one of the 12 tribes of Israel. Israel was Jacob and Israel is the new name that G-d gave to him. Israel had 12 sons who later became the 12 tribes of Israel. These 12 tribes who were slaves in Egypt are the ones with which G-d made his covenant and gave them the Torah and its commandments, commanded them to settle down in the land of Israel - a land that he promised to Jacob hundreds years before - to conquer it and to establish a kingdom of priests.

In 722 B.C. the Assyrians conquered the north part of the Israeli kingdom and exilled 10 tribes (9 tribes plus parts of the Levi tribe who didn't have an estate of their own, parts of the tribe of Levi were scattered amongst all the other tribes) amongst the 12 tribes of the children of Israel and these 10 tribes lost their faith, became gentiles and assimilated with them.

The Jews nowadays worldwide and in Israel are the descendants of 3 tribes: Judah, Levi and Benjamin (and some of them from the tribe of Menashe). Judah was the biggest tribe which settled in the Judean desert, then the Romans who conquered the land of Israel 2000 years ago called all the children of Israel "Jews".


This seems very similar to what is written on this website.

http://godhelpbritain.blogspot.com/2007_01_28_archive.html

Are they by any chance related?



Buba - why are you copying and pasting huge chunks from other websites? You know how to do links (f***, and then some) why not just do that?
 


Buba

Banned
Mar 3, 2007
189
Israel
Man of Harveys said:
Why can't I SEE GOD?
Because he said so. You can see only images that you have an effect on them, G-d is beyond your knowledge.

Why can't we see G-d?

although G-d may be hidden, he is not hidden far away

Yerachmiel Galinsky Published: 10.29.06, 21:27 / Israel Culture

A verse from the Torah states "And I, hide shall I hide my face from them." This idea of G-d hiding himself is a notion that plagues both laymen and Rabbis a like.

* To listen to the Dvar Torah please click here

There are many verses throughout the Torah, prophets, and other writings that explicitly state there is no reality or existence other than G-d. So, if He is supposedly everywhere, including right in front of our eyes, why is he seemingly nowhere? If G-d is real, than why can't we see him?

This phenomenon of not being able to see something right in front of our eyes occurs often as part of our daily lives. For example, take the case of the disappearing car keys. How many times have you torn apart your desk, kitchen, or some other spot looking desperately for your car keys when in the end you find them sitting out openly somewhere right in front of your eyes.

This also happens on an emotional level. Often times when looking for happiness, people act out with extreme behavior like traveling the world or going on spending sprees. But in the end, they sometimes find what they were looking for was right in front of their eyes the whole time.

There are two ways we usually uncover things that are right in front of our eyes. One way is that it just dawns on us out of nowhere like, "There are my keys!" or "I really love and miss so and so!" The other way is that we change our perspective. We decide to look or think in such a way that brings us to certain realizations.

For example, we retrace our steps to find our keys or we re-examine our relationships to find the thing we want out of them. Essentially, we are able to see that which was previously an invisible presence; that which we know is there, but we just cannot find it.

We can apply how we uncover things in our daily lives to our search to revealing G-d's hiding place. As we just said, one way comes like a gift from above as it just dawns on a person in the form of some kind of spiritual awakening. The other way, which is the stronger and more secure, is to actually change our perspective.

Spiritual frequency woven into our reality

Just like there are radio and TV waves invisible to the naked eye but penetrating our physical world, so too there is a G-dly, spiritual frequency woven into our reality. And just as we need a radio tuned to the right channel to hear the radio waves, we also need the right instrument set on the right channel to pick up on this spiritual frequency.

The difference in this analogy is that we as individuals are the instruments to tap into this G-dly frequency. However, we have to be tuned to the right channel with the right perspective to see it.

Also, just as a TV or a radio are highly technical devices that must not be damaged to work, so too by refining ourselves and bringing healing into the broken areas of our lives, we can become a spiritual instrument that reveals the hidden.

Now we see that although G-d may be hidden, he is not hidden far away.

Indeed when discussing our connection to G-d, the Torah states that "it is not in the skies…nor is it across the sea…rather it is very near to you."

It is within all of our potential to see and to connect to G-d. Perhaps it is best summed up by when someone once asked a great Rabbi, "Where is G-d?" the Rabbi answered, "Where ever you let Him in."
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3320024,00.html#n
 






Buba

Banned
Mar 3, 2007
189
Israel
Buzzer said:
This seems very similar to what is written on this website.

http://godhelpbritain.blogspot.com/2007_01_28_archive.html

Are they by any chance related?



Buba - why are you copying and pasting huge chunks from other websites? You know how to do links (f***, and then some) why not just do that?
I didn't copy this link from the website that you gave, I don't know this website.

I received the post with the information about the Jews and Palestine in an email couple of time ago, I checked the facts of it and they are true.
 


Yoda

English & European
All religions are made up by mad men. How can you prove what happened over 2000 years ago? It's all a bloody chinese whisper that gets distorted the further alone in time it goes.
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Yoda said:
All religions are made up by mad men. How can you prove what happened over 2000 years ago? It's all a bloody chinese whisper that gets distorted the further alone in time it goes.

Even pastafarianism (aka the flying spaghetti monster)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastafarianism

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Buba

Banned
Mar 3, 2007
189
Israel
Yoda said:
All religions are made up by mad men. How can you prove what happened over 2000 years ago? It's all a bloody chinese whisper that gets distorted the further alone in time it goes.
There are witnesses for the revelation in mount Horeb and to the Exodus from Egypt.

Do you know the saying: "300,000 fans of Oasis in Glastonbery can't be wrong"?

So are the 600,000 men above the age of 20 and their families who witnessed the mount Horeb revelation.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,983
Surrey
Buba said:
There are witnesses for the revelation in mount Horeb and to the Exodus from Egypt.

Do you know the saying: "300,000 fans of Oasis in Glastonbery can't be wrong"?

So are the 600,000 men above the age of 20 and their families who witnessed the mount Horeb revelation.
What the f*** are you talking about?

You've watched "the life of Brian" too many times.
 






LondonSeagull

New member
Feb 21, 2006
38
London
Hey everyone,

Before i start i wana get a few things straight...

Im not with Buba and dont even know the guy before anyone suggests it.

I dont usually post on here but have just been watching the action for the last few months and felt i needed to register and comment on this particular subject as it is something very close to me.

Now without giving you my life story....

I am a Jew living in North east London and attend a Jewish school/6th form college. I was one of the 49% of all British teenage Jews who spent their summer in Israel last year and i was lucky enough to spend a month there in what was the most amazing thing i have ever done in my life!

Buba, as much as i am behind israel, you need to accept that it isnt perfect. Perhaps 99% perfect but not 100%. By posting all these links and constantly referring back to the Torah isnt going to make people agree with you. Its facts like before Israel was declared a state, the two state solution was offered. With the Jews being the worse off and the areas offered to them where there was a majority of Jews yet the Palestinians rejected and the grand mufte of Jerusalem called for the destruction of the Jewish people..... The Hebron massacre in which 300 Jews (a large majority being holocaust survivors) were murdered and attacked.

So stop blabbing on about the Torah because it is a book written by G-d which is something that people believe in....beliefs arent necessarily fact!!

(Im 16yrs old and a huge Albion fan and have been for about 10years.... Dad grew up in Brighton and was one of the regular northstanders. I regularly go to local away games and bring a load of mates - all non-albion fans with me and they fuckin love it! The atmosphere and the passion of our fans is second to none according to them)

Btw Bubah, u say u live near Ramat Gan..... i stayed at Kfar Maccabiah for 4 days and f*ck me was it luxury!!

:albion:
 


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Jul 25, 2005
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buba..on a more serious note,








do you know anything about pickling onions?
i only done mine in december and theyve gone soggy already.
(if its any help, i used cold vinegar) :)
 










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