[News] A paedophile priest high on crystal meth told how he wanted to sacrifice babies to Satan.

[Lenny Rider]

I think he will be going to prison - I sincerely hope so.

No doubt, its just the way the C of E will effectively do the christian thing and not cast him out into the wilderness when he gets out that will probably upset a few people.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Not sure that’s completely correct what you’ve stated?

DOE Explains...the Higgs Boson

DOE Explains...the Higgs Boson

www.energy.gov

Yes that’s the Higgs Boson.

Nobel prize winning physicist Leon M Lederman wrote ‘The God Particle: if the universe is the answer what is the question?’ as a history of particle physics. He said he wanted to call it ‘The Goddam Particle’ but they would let him - only because the theory was sound but at that time they had no way of proving it existed - until CERN. The term has been jumped on by religious and the spiritual ever since.

Has led to a good joke though…

"Higgs boson walks into a church, and the priest says, 'I'm sorry we don't allow Higgs bosons to come to churches.' And [the Higgs] says, 'But without me, you can't have mass.'"

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

No doubt, its just the way the C of E will effectively do the christian thing and not cast him out into the wilderness when he gets out that will probably upset a few people.

In my experience, I used to work on occasion with someone within the Anglican Church for whom a part of their responsibility was Safeguarding and specifically the question of known sex offenders in the life of the Church - not priests, but just normal people who wanted to come back in to the life of the Church. They were enormously careful and it was fiercely policed. I doubt whether he will ever get a licence to preach again.

A few years ago a Church Minister (not an Anglican) in Hampshire was convicted of Child related sexual offences. He received a Life sentence..... and deserved it.

If this bloke does go to prison, and then does want to get back in to Church Life again afterwards, even if only as a worshipper, I would hope and trust he would be very carefully handled to ensure the safety of everyone else.

 

[beorhthelm]

I personally think people who believe in no God need to stop trying to force their beliefs onto others who do believe in God. Why is it always the atheist who preaches their view so adamantly as if they’ve got the proof? Some of them get so angry it’s almost hypocritical to claim they’ve figured it all out but yet can’t even understand or control their own temper and emotions!

So all this God stuff going on for 1000’s of years, all these people now doing things like meditation and yoga, all these people who meet up in religious buildings to share the same core beliefs, is just a load of tosh because people on an internet football forum can prove its no true?

Okay. I’m convinced. We are all just peices of material

There’s no proof either side of the argument and we’re still pretty limited in terms of what we know in relation to the mind and soul. Things like the God particle are very much debated as well as the view that science snd spirituality are coming closer and closer, but of course if you go on a football forum or a YouTube comments section etc, you’ll be debating with people who prefer to use the same old crappy argument of ‘earthquakes and peado’s prove their is no God.’

you can dance on the head of the pin around "proof" all day long. lets talk evidence: there is plenty of evidence on one side, nothing on the other. no one forces you to not believe, i couldn't reconcile the belief of a good and omnisicent god with the evidence.

 

[Diallo]

Yes that’s the Higgs Boson.

Nobel prize winning physicist Leon M Lederman wrote ‘The God Particle: if the universe is the answer what is the question?’ as a history of particle physics. He said he wanted to call it ‘The Goddam Particle’ but they would let him - only because the theory was sound but at that time they had no way of proving it existed - until CERN. The term has been jumped on by religious and the spiritual ever since.

Has led to a good joke though…

"Higgs boson walks into a church, and the priest says, 'I'm sorry we don't allow Higgs bosons to come to churches.' And [the Higgs] says, 'But without me, you can't have mass.'"

Im confused with the joke as the link claims

you can dance on the head of the pin around "proof" all day long. lets talk evidence there is plenty of evidence on one side, nothing on the other. no one forces you to not believe, i couldn't reconcile the belief of a good and omnisicent god with the evidence.

What’s your evidence that meditation and prayer doesn’t work then?

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Which God are you referring to? Across the planet there are thousands of Gods that people believe in.
Religious people routinely write off other peoples Gods that they are 100% convinced definitely do not exist……….because their choice of God can be the only real one.

That is rubbish. It's certainly not true right across the board. "Some religious people"..... maybe, but it's a crass generalisation.

 

[beorhthelm]

What’s your evidence that meditation and prayer doesn’t work then?

i have not claimed they don't work. do you have evidence they do?

 

[beorhthelm]

That is rubbish. It's certainly not true right across the board. "Some religious people"..... maybe, but it's a crass generalisation.

people have and still do fight wars over the interpretation of a god, let alone different gods. you might be more broad minded, its fair to say that globally, most religious people dismiss other religion's gods. it's often a requirement.

 

[Diallo]

i dont claim they dont work. do you have evidence they do?

No I don’t have any evidences

All I’ve got is my own personal experience and I definitely wouldn’t call that evidence. I think the only evidence out there are things we’ve had banned and kept away from society (Psychedelics). I’d love to try that Hyausca (if that’s how you spell it) experience, and DMT sounds very interesting, but unfortunately our Goddless society right now will blindly follow the narrative that all Psychedlics are evil and anyone using them is a nutter, just take a look at the constant abuse Swansman received just for smoking cannabis!

 

[sydney]

Well that's West Sussex for you

tsk..we had a proper wrongun of a priest in Worthing when i was a kid , he was from Herts.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Im confused with the joke as the link claims

Like the Higgs Field, you bought the Higgs Boson into this thread. Don't go getting all confused about it now.

 

[Diallo]

Like the Higgs Field, you bought the Higgs Boson into this thread. Don't go getting all confused about it now.

Sorry about that. Wasn’t meant to post that hence only a sentence halfway through

 

[sydney]

No I don’t have any evidences

All I’ve got is my own personal experience and I definitely wouldn’t call that evidence. I think the only evidence out there are things we’ve had banned and kept away from society (Psychedelics). I’d love to try that Hyausca (if that’s how you spell it) experience, and DMT sounds very interesting, but unfortunately our Goddless society right now will blindly follow the narrative that all Psychedlics are evil and anyone using them is a nutter, just take a look at the constant abuse Swansman received just for smoking cannabis!

DMT and SHROOMS are brilliant DMT only lasts about 20 minutes , SHROOMS about 6 to 8 hrs depending on intake ACID can be sublime and also fuerking awful ...METH is just a gutter drug , tried it , hated it , seen mates go down the pan , one of my mates murdered his wife in december , would not be f***ing told to leave it alone , started as a weekend thing ended up every day , continuously wired .......shittest drug on the planet.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

I always liked Johan Cruyff's quote

"I’m not religious. In Spain all 22 players make the sign of the cross before they enter the pitch. If it works all matches must therefore end in a draw."

I noticed that a lot in the States at the NFL games. I remember thinking that if such a being existed they would probably have more important things to worry about than the outcome of a football match

 

[beorhthelm]

No I don’t have any evidences

All I’ve got is my own personal experience and I definitely wouldn’t call that evidence. I think the only evidence out there are things we’ve had banned and kept away from society (Psychedelics). I’d love to try that Hyausca (if that’s how you spell it) experience, and DMT sounds very interesting, but unfortunately our Goddless society right now will blindly follow the narrative that all Psychedlics are evil and anyone using them is a nutter, just take a look at the constant abuse Swansman received just for smoking cannabis!

sounds like argument in favour of spiritual experience through chemical induced physiological change, rather than following awkward inconsitent, contradictory, belief systems.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

No I don’t have any evidences

All I’ve got is my own personal experience and I definitely wouldn’t call that evidence. I think the only evidence out there are things we’ve had banned and kept away from society (Psychedelics). I’d love to try that Hyausca (if that’s how you spell it) experience, and DMT sounds very interesting, but unfortunately our Goddless society right now will blindly follow the narrative that all Psychedlics are evil and anyone using them is a nutter, just take a look at the constant abuse Swansman received just for smoking cannabis!

So you want to use Psychedelics to affect all the senses, altering a person's thinking, sense of time and emotions.

They can cause a person to hallucinate—seeing or hearing things that do not exist or are distorted.

I would say you don't need to take them.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

people have and still do fight wars over the interpretation of a god, let alone different gods. you might be more broad minded, its fair to say that globally, most religious people dismiss other religion's gods. it's often a requirement.

fair enough, but I wasn’t thinking globally or historically. I was thinking in the context of what this thread was originally about - a paedophile priest in Worthing, which hits close to home because Worthing is where I was brought up between 1954 and 1972.

incidentally three of the major world faiths believe ultimately in the same God - Christianity, Judaism and Islam. So historically and currently any differences between adherents to those faiths are not down to their rejection of the other’s God, more about ways of getting to him/her/it.

 

[Diallo]

So you want to use Psychedelics to affect all the senses, altering a person's thinking, sense of time and emotions.

They can cause a person to hallucinate—seeing or hearing things that do not exist or are distorted.

I would say you don't need to take them.

That’s fair enough. They do have their dangers and you should be entitled to free choice of what to do with your mind. Choosing to not take them is absolutely fine if that’s your choice.

But if you want to know what psychedelics truly do to you, using the theory of needing evidence, then surely you have to try them?

We’ve all got different mental designs. I highly doubt we all experience psychedelics in the same way.

 

[keaton]

Is this the thread about the next conservative party chair?

 

[sydney]

So you want to use Psychedelics to affect all the senses, altering a person's thinking, sense of time and emotions.

They can cause a person to hallucinate—seeing or hearing things that do not exist or are distorted.

I would say you don't need to take them.

psychedelics are being used to treat depression , adhd, and also used in palliative and terminal care , blinkered thinking such as yours is extremely unfortunate in the 21st century.

clearly you have very little real education on the matter.

that aside , meth is not a psychedelic , it is a shitty man made drug developed by the US military....who'd a thunk it.