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A message from Tommy Fraiser...
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B.W.
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Because we need the best players we can get, even if they come from Palar$e... or were you joking?
Don Quixote
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- Nov 4, 2008
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Withdean Wanderer on this occasion speaks the truth. He speaks with wisdom! The holy spirit hath come down upon him.
bhaexpress
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If he has it doesn't happen often.
acrossthepond
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I'll have a pint of whatever you're having....
seagullsovergrimsby
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Fraser played to the best of his ability , always put in 100% which is more than some players did. However Slade is building a side that will challenge for promotion and it was his decision that Fraser wouldn't be offered a new contract.
Brighton Breezy
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Regardless of the merits of this rumour Fraser was a GOOD player for us and never gave less than 100 per cent.
He played a big part in our run toward the end of the season including scoring an all-important goal at Hereford - before which most of us had completely given up hope of survival.
I am sad he has left and wish him nothing but the very best in his future career and hopefully one day we may see him in the stripes again.
He played a big part in our run toward the end of the season including scoring an all-important goal at Hereford - before which most of us had completely given up hope of survival.
I am sad he has left and wish him nothing but the very best in his future career and hopefully one day we may see him in the stripes again.
seagullsovergrimsby
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Fraser going to Palace could happen as they need to consolidate their position in the Championship as a mid table club.
TWOCHOICEStom
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Quality bloke and it is a shame that he won't get to prove whether or not he can be a part of a promotion chasing side...
I used to LOVE Neil Smillie on the wing, didn't bother me a bit that he was ex Palace.
Similarly when we WON League 1 under Peter Taylor I was more than happy to join in the celebrations, similarly was gutted to see Coppell go.
By all means want Palace to lose, but to refuse to get behind players because of a past association is rather churlish. Remember there was no real acrimony between the two sets of fans before Ron Challis and 'that' match.
Drogba is one of the sulkiest players I've ever seen, he was rubbish for about 3 months this season because he didn't like the manager. This is your example of professionalism?
I'm not saying that personal criticism affects all players, but it can and it's one of a thousand human factors that affect player performance and saying that players should be above it is just unrealsitic.
Also - I would say that yesterday Ronaldo was affected by the whole 'best player in the world' showdown. He seemed overly desperate to prove himself and it affected his game. Perhaps he shouldn't care so much about what people think?
Hmmm, I just said no-one would argue Fraser was a great player, but then you open your post as if I said just that. Why?
Feel free to attack our players (whilst they are playing for us) all you like, but I can't help but think it a bit counter-productive and unnecessary. And besides if you took your argument to it's logical conclusion most of our players are fairly limited. That's why they play in the third tier of English football. Why not give Kuipers some stick? He's a decent shot stopper, but doesn't command his area, has dubious decision making and poor distribution (his kicking is woeful). He should surely be a prime target.
Barrel of Fun
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Withdean Wanderer - 0 - Completely bereft of intelligence, a balanced viewpoint and severely lacking in common courtesy. Doesn't even bleed blue and white. Get RID.
Dick Knights Mumm
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BoF - we're all lifers here.
How very true!
On the Fraser issue, when I first saw him I thought he was a willing worker, without much skill or imagination - but I always had the impression that as a player he was doing EXACTLY the job the manager had asked him to - perhaps even a bit too rigidly. Some of the comments on here seem to show that wasn't a bad call at all!
This season, though, I felt he'd come on a lot - and that he'd fairly blossomed under RS, a leader on the pitch and influencing games much more. To be fair, the Hereford keeper wasn't the only person in the ground to be surprised by that overhead kick at Hereford, but his confidence did seem to be growing. Surprised he didn't get a contract, really.
I don't know about the rumour that RS was trying to get rid of a drinking culture among some of the players - getting rid of the player isn't necessarily the best way to stop it; you can introduce tough new rules and standards - and if after a few months a player is still defying the new regime and ignoring warnings, then fine, ship him out - but I don't think 8 weeks is long enough for that to happen.
Still, he's gone now - good luck to him. We'd just better make sure we replace him with someone better!
Barrel of Fun
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Agreed. I wasn't being serious in the slightest. I don't mind that WW 'moans' (for want of a better word) about much to do with the club. Hell, I think he goes to many more games that 99% of the posters on here.
I just find the sheer glee that some people display when someone has lost their job, very hard to swallow. Plus, I am quite gutted that Fraser was released. That did surprise me somewhat as he seemed to be making great strides and I think he will forge a career as a professional. Going to have to trust Slade on this one, I guess.
i guess the point i was trying to make, albeit with a heavy touch, was that signing a reserve striker from palace who goes straight into our first team is a bit humiliating - its bad enough that we've been in lower leagues than them for most of the last 15 years or so, but taking their reserves is an admission of inferiority in my book.
with coppell and taylor it felt different as they'd both long since left smellhurst.
how would you feel if king bob joined them? i think i'd be a bit upset.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Always said the ex-youth team players should have been forced out of their comfort zone. Joel Lynch has held his own at one grade up in a strange town in another part of the country, half a dozen of the other ex-youth got breakfast in bed from their mums and were home in time for tea. Going forward, to use the business buzzword, being a homegrown (and cheap) Sussex youth won't be top of the list when it comes to picking players for the first team squad. Instead, it'll be grown-up professionals from all over the place. As it should be.