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Should we Keep the Monarchy?

  • Yes. Keep the Monarchy

    Votes: 49 62.0%
  • No. Chop off their heads (French)

    Votes: 19 24.1%
  • Fence

    Votes: 11 13.9%

  • Total voters
    79


Stoo82

GEEZUS!
Jul 8, 2008
7,530
Hove
I say the same about a governement. The Democratic idea of a Head of State, because all countrys have them is to keep the government in check and to stop government undermineing democracy.
 




Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
14,865
BN3 7DE
On Radio 4, Mark Steel argued that the monarchy should be decided by a weekly national lottery here

Some interesting points.
 


Wozza

Custom title
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
24,376
Minteh Wonderland
I got an A-Level in Government and Political Studies despite attending just two lectures (gave up on evening course but had already paid for exam so did it anyway). Didn't even see a syllabus.
 


PS And the Huguenots were let in after the revocation of the Edict of Nantes - something that's in James' favour. My ancestors were some of the people who came over from France and settled in Sussex.


Where they glassblowers by any chance? Reason for asking is that the Huguenots set up an industry in Sussex when they arrived from France and one of the last - John le Carrie - is buried in our local churchyard in Alfold.
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,830
Uffern
Where they glassblowers by any chance? Reason for asking is that the Huguenots set up an industry in Sussex when they arrived from France and one of the last - John le Carrie - is buried in our local churchyard in Alfold.


Don't think so. Our family ended up in Amberley but there's a bit of a gap between them leaving France and ending up in Sussex - somewhere along the line the name got anglicised and we have no idea when this happened.
 




bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
Keep them, they're good for the tourist trade. However, do away with the Civil List, let them live off their earnings.
 


strings

Moving further North...
Feb 19, 2006
9,969
Barnsley
I have to agree with the general sentiments on here. Get rid of the 'civil list' hangers on, but keep the Royal family. I don't feel comfortable with the idea of a president type character.

Interestingly, I had never thought about the 'tourism income' of the royal family until I read this thread.
 


Dandyman

In London village.
Don't think so. Our family ended up in Amberley but there's a bit of a gap between them leaving France and ending up in Sussex - somewhere along the line the name got anglicised and we have no idea when this happened.


Hugenots made a major contribution to the British textile industry. Courtlaud, Dormeuil, etc - would that include any of your family?
 




bigc

New member
Jul 5, 2003
5,740
I have to agree with the general sentiments on here. Get rid of the 'civil list' hangers on, but keep the Royal family. I don't feel comfortable with the idea of a president type character.

Interestingly, I had never thought about the 'tourism income' of the royal family until I read this thread.

Surely we could save money and get someone to dress up as them?

It works for the tourists at Hampton Court with Henry VIII...
 




coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
I say the same about a governement. The Democratic idea of a Head of State, because all countrys have them is to keep the government in check and to stop government undermineing democracy.

Wasn't there a civil war in Algeria after the miltary didn't like the outcome of an election? The monarchy would only step in if they saw their position threatened
 




User removed 4

New member
May 9, 2008
13,331
Haywards Heath
Whilst we're on the subject of saving public money, I was reading that £87 million a year is spent privately educating the children of the Military top brass.

Can anyone else confirm that and explain why ... ?
Its not just the top brass, its a subsidy open to all ranks though i suspect you'd only be able to afford it as an officer or c/sgt and above, its because you move to a different place every three years or so in the armed forces , some people prefer some continuity in their childrens education, considering some of the things we spend public money on i would say this is money well spent, wouldnt you agree ?
 


drew

Drew
NSC Patron
Oct 3, 2006
23,626
Burgess Hill
Well, personally I am happy to keep the monarchy as in reality they have no political power. They perform ceremonial duties and, at the end of the day, don't cost us a penny. Income from the Crown Estates last year was £230m which goes straight into the treasury who then cough up about £40m for the civil list.

The monarch provides our country with heritage which the likes of the USA can only dream about. It also means that you cannot buy your way into the position of Head of State as they do in the US. The Queen isn't perfect (and Charles less so) but they are streets ahead of the likes of GW.
 


drew

Drew
NSC Patron
Oct 3, 2006
23,626
Burgess Hill
Keep them, they're good for the tourist trade. However, do away with the Civil List, let them live off their earnings.

Good idea, rip up the Civil List agreement. The monarchy then gets the income from the crown estates and we lose out to the tune of about £190m a year.
 




coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
Well, personally I am happy to keep the monarchy as in reality they have no political power. They perform ceremonial duties and, at the end of the day, don't cost us a penny. Income from the Crown Estates last year was £230m which goes straight into the treasury who then cough up about £40m for the civil list.

The monarch provides our country with heritage which the likes of the USA can only dream about. It also means that you cannot buy your way into the position of Head of State as they do in the US. The Queen isn't perfect (and Charles less so) but they are streets ahead of the likes of GW.

Where did the crown estates come from? Stolen from the peasants.
 






drew

Drew
NSC Patron
Oct 3, 2006
23,626
Burgess Hill
Where did the crown estates come from? Stolen from the peasants.

Not a very good arguement otherwise you sink to the level where all property ownership is theft. Who gave the land to the peasants in the first place? Who decided who had the nice bit of land next to the river and who ended up with the shitty scrubland.
 




skipper734

Registered ruffian
Aug 9, 2008
9,189
Curdridge
In The beginning nobody owned the land. In a tribe you need a leader, so a chief was elected or he was the biggest bloke.
Tribes amalgamated, so the chiefs fought amongst themselves to see who would come out on top. He was called the King and owned all the land, some of which he gave away to the chiefs who had helped him become King.
So the land was slowly given away initially by the King, but inherited and divided up and inherited again and again. Till we get to the situation where the peasants owned no land and never had, but the King kept a little bit for himself.
So how was it stolen from the peasants?
 




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