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hitony

Administrator
Jul 13, 2005
16,284
South Wales (im not welsh !!)
Had an appointment today and got royally f***ed about so much I will make an official complaint, no wonder things like Stafford happen when a Doctor doesn't even read your medical notes and check the tests you have had done. I am totally and utterly f***ed off by the clowns in white coats, just wish i had the cash to go private

Some people on here have been banned for a very long time (if not for good!) for trolling, I read your post above and decided to google "what is trolling" and the first hit was this http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling (do read it please!)

Most of (if not all) your posts pretty much come within the realms of the contents of "what is trolling"

However, if you think only item 5 in the list applies to you, please do let me know.
 




Northstandite

New member
Jun 6, 2011
1,260
I would assume that junior doctors have to learn as well, thats probably why they ask. Everyone has to learn somewhere. Doctors are trained to spot things that a nurse is not though and there knowledge while not as widespread is more specialist. At A+E departments now there are nurse practitioners and also if it is nothing serious then they are sent to the GP who they have in the A+E department to be seen by them. At the end of the day if the triage nurse decides you need to see a doctor then I would assume thats because you do. Maybe im spoilt in having Kings college hospital, or if im staying at my other house then the Princess Royal hospital in Bromley.
To be honest I have never known anyone sue any kind of healthcare person ever, but obviously it must happen. If anyone in that profession has to develop a siege mentality then maybe its not the job for them.

So good you posted twice?
 




Freddie Goodwin.

Well-known member
Mar 31, 2007
7,186
Brighton
I went to A&E having been stung on the eyelid by a wasp ans being allergic to wasp stings. My face did swell up.

Was seen fairly soon and assessed and things were under control, was happy with that. Doctor said they'ed get me some medication and to wait. nearly an hour later, and having taken up one of their bays, I asked the nursing station about this, they weren't too happy. soon they came over with a little pot & 2 pills, both standard medication (paracetomol being one) that I have at home.

my gripe is the Dr could have told me that and I could have left rather than blocking the system. It does seem that initial care is good but nobody mops up the bed blockers.
 


mooey

New member
Mar 30, 2012
484
How shit! Sat up there yesterday for 3 hours for a dislocated finger, it was bad too!

X-ray followed by being told I've been took off the list after an hour, sat in another room for an hour, popped back into place after another half hour, x-ray then a splint on my finger.

3 f***ing hours! To be honest, that's a joke.


i work in a+e if we could see everyone straight away we would.but you might not be aware that we see people according to prioroty were not sitting around drinking tea. were extremly busy all the time dealing with life and death and as you were there soooooo long you must have seen the posters up on the wall about how many people vo there when th ere is no need.not saying you didnt need to go but thats not life threatin as colapsed lung ect ect.Dont like waiting around go private and that would set you back grand
 




Freddie Goodwin.

Well-known member
Mar 31, 2007
7,186
Brighton
Can't fault the heroic staff of A&E who have to deal with all sorts of grusome stuff, and some pretty grusome people.

My gripe was just a bit on the efficincy of getting the 'fit' people back out of A&E and clearing the bottleneck.
 


Phat Baz 68

Get a ****ing life mate !
Apr 16, 2011
5,026
How shit! Sat up there yesterday for 3 hours for a dislocated finger, it was bad too!

X-ray followed by being told I've been took off the list after an hour, sat in another room for an hour, popped back into place after another half hour, x-ray then a splint on my finger.

3 f***ing hours! To be honest, that's a joke.

Next time ask them to stop treating the person with a heart attack and the small child with Meningitis, to come to your rescue, Im so sure they will be delighted !!!
 


mooey

New member
Mar 30, 2012
484
How shit! Sat up there yesterday for 3 hours for a dislocated finger, it was bad too!

X-ray followed by being told I've been took off the list after an hour, sat in another room for an hour, popped back into place after another half hour, x-ray then a splint on my finger.

3 f***ing hours! To be honest, that's a joke.


i work in a+e if we could see everyone straight away we would.but you might not be aware that we see people according to prioroty were not sitting around drinking tea. were extremly busy all the time dealing with life and death and as you were there soooooo long you must have seen the posters up on the wall about how many people vo there when th ere is no need.not saying you didnt need to go but thats not life threatin as colapsed lung ect ect.Dont like waiting around go private and that would set you back grand
 




Marc1901

Peace out.
Apr 26, 2009
6,106
The Championship.
Next time ask them to stop treating the person with a heart attack and the small child with Meningitis, to come to your rescue, Im so sure they will be delighted !!!

Oh dear.

I know sometimes I talk some shit on here but that is one of the most f***ing idiotic comments I've seen.

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i work in a+e if we could see everyone straight away we would.but you might not be aware that we see people according to prioroty were not sitting around drinking tea. were extremly busy all the time dealing with life and death and as you were there soooooo long you must have seen the posters up on the wall about how many people vo there when th ere is no need.not saying you didnt need to go but thats not life threatin as colapsed lung ect ect.Dont like waiting around go private and that would set you back grand

Christ, I wish I didn't decide to have a few beers last night and start this thread now..
 


Indurain's Lungs

Legend of Garry Nelson
Jun 22, 2010
2,260
Dorset
Most emergency departments (yes, the accident bit has been dropped by a lot) are split into majors, minors and resus (resuscitation). Only minors will be in the waiting room so it is not a good gauge of how many people are in the department.

Majors and resus, as the names imply, are the priorities so if they are getting overwhelmed then doctors will move from minors over there, thus affecting waiting times. Obviously you won't get told if resus/majors are busy when you book in to minors.

I hated working in emergency because of minors - always busy on Sundays because it's convenient for people to wander up to the hospital on their lazy Sunday, people getting the hump about waiting 4 hours then getting even more of the hump because you tell them they've got a cold and didn't need to come to hospital.

Good for stories about people sticking things on various orifices though!
 


Puppet Master

non sequitur
Aug 14, 2012
4,056
Oh dear.

I know sometimes I talk some shit on here but that is one of the most f***ing idiotic comments I've seen.

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The funny thing is I doubt anyone having a heart attack or suffering meningitis was seen before you, the reason for the long delay was probably because of some screaming alchie or drug-addled headfuck had decided to cause themselves some harm on the same evening you went in. Or some deviant went in with a snapped toilet brush lodged up their rectum.
 




8ace

Banned
Jul 21, 2003
23,811
Brighton
I went to A&E about five years ago when I sliced the skin on the knuckle of my thumb open and I was all sorted within an hour. That was before the Tory ***** got in though.
 




D

Deleted member 22389

Guest
Nothing to do with the hard working doctors, nurses. They follow the rules set by the pen pushers and these clowns in government on highly inflated salaries, who don't have the first clue about healthcare. Did most of these incidents not happen under Labours watch?
 




Bevendean Hillbilly

New member
Sep 4, 2006
12,805
Nestling in green nowhere
I would assume that junior doctors have to learn as well, thats probably why they ask. Everyone has to learn somewhere. Doctors are trained to spot things that a nurse is not though and there knowledge while not as widespread is more specialist. At A+E departments now there are nurse practitioners and also if it is nothing serious then they are sent to the GP who they have in the A+E department to be seen by them. At the end of the day if the triage nurse decides you need to see a doctor then I would assume thats because you do. Maybe im spoilt in having Kings college hospital, or if im staying at my other house then the Princess Royal hospital in Bromley.
To be honest I have never known anyone sue any kind of healthcare person ever, but obviously it must happen. If anyone in that profession has to develop a siege mentality then maybe its not the job for them.

The junior Doctors do need to learn and A&E is a great place to get a good grasp of all sorts of general issues. My point is that it is a choice between shorter waits and fast turnaround for the majority of A&E attenders. What most people don't realise is just how inexperienced the SHOs are and how so much of the care delivered in minor injuries is overseen by experienced nurses anyway. I would prefer that the casualty department is staffed by more experienced medics with juniors observing and learning rather than running the place day to day.

We used to have GPs in to see the more workaday patients and they were brilliant seeing more than twice the patients than SHOs and discharging more an hour than anyone else.

The problem was that they are now too expensive to justify the cost vs. the efficiency so were back to square one.

Edit : if you have two houses you should go to one of those new fee paying A&E departments!

P.s. you're right. I took a look at myself one day and decided that I had a siege mentality so went off and chose a new career as have half of the Nurses I worked with then. There's only so much shit anyone can cope with before they admit they need to quit or go bonkers.
 
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Phat Baz 68

Get a ****ing life mate !
Apr 16, 2011
5,026
Christ, I wish I didn't decide to have a few beers last night and start this thread now..[/QUOTE]
 




Birdie Boy

Well-known member
Jun 17, 2011
4,387
Been many times to A&E, I have 3 kids.... Everytime they have been dealt with in 3 hours, nearly to the minute. I believe that their SLA is 3 hours, hence they try and get everyone done in that time. Obviously at busy periods etc. this cannot always happen but has with me. I went two weeks ago when my son broke his arm snowboarding on The Downs, as you can imagine it was packed with 95% of people in there holding a broken/fractured/sprained arm! In and out bang on 3 hours again..
 




EDS

Banned
Nov 11, 2012
2,040
The junior Doctors do need to learn and A&E is a great place to get a good grasp of all sorts of general issues. My point is that it is a choice between shorter waits and fast turnaround for the majority of A&E attenders. What most people don't realise is just how inexperienced the SHOs are and how so much of the care delivered in minor injuries is overseen by experienced nurses anyway. I would prefer that the casualty department is staffed by more experienced medics with juniors observing and learning rather than running the place day to day.

We used to have GPs in to see the more workaday patients and they were brilliant seeing more than twice the patients than SHOs and discharging more an hour than anyone else.

The problem was that they are now too expensive to justify the cost vs. the efficiency so were back to square one.

Edit : if you have two houses you should go to one of those new fee paying A&E departments!

P.s. you're right. I took a look at myself one day and decided that I had a siege mentality so went off and chose a new career as have half of the Nurses I worked with then. There's only so much shit anyone can cope with before they admit they need to quit or go bonkers.

We still have GP's in our A+E departments in London. I know that the junior doctors are inexperienced but is that not why they have consultants on hand and also the majors unit for the more serious cases? Most of what I say is a guesstimate as I obviously have no medical training myself.

I have one house in Bromley and a flat in Bermondsey as some nights I get called out 2-3 times into central London and its a bit much to be driving from Bromley and back that much. I certainly would not pay to visit an A+E if it was available for free and I am entitled to use it.

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The junior Doctors do need to learn and A&E is a great place to get a good grasp of all sorts of general issues. My point is that it is a choice between shorter waits and fast turnaround for the majority of A&E attenders. What most people don't realise is just how inexperienced the SHOs are and how so much of the care delivered in minor injuries is overseen by experienced nurses anyway. I would prefer that the casualty department is staffed by more experienced medics with juniors observing and learning rather than running the place day to day.

We used to have GPs in to see the more workaday patients and they were brilliant seeing more than twice the patients than SHOs and discharging more an hour than anyone else.

The problem was that they are now too expensive to justify the cost vs. the efficiency so were back to square one.

Edit : if you have two houses you should go to one of those new fee paying A&E departments!

P.s. you're right. I took a look at myself one day and decided that I had a siege mentality so went off and chose a new career as have half of the Nurses I worked with then. There's only so much shit anyone can cope with before they admit they need to quit or go bonkers.

We still have GP's in our A+E departments in London. I know that the junior doctors are inexperienced but is that not why they have consultants on hand and also the majors unit for the more serious cases? Most of what I say is a guesstimate as I obviously have no medical training myself.

I have one house in Bromley and a flat in Bermondsey as some nights I get called out 2-3 times into central London and its a bit much to be driving from Bromley and back that much. I certainly would not pay to visit an A+E if it was available for free and I am entitled to use it.
 


seagullondon

New member
Mar 15, 2011
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