[Brighton] A Brighton Tram service in the Offing….

[Justice]

Was in Prague last month. All the trams were free or cheap as chips to ride. Apart from the Heritage Tram. That was quite pricey, but well worth doing. Seemed to be quite popular too, as well as being on a useful route. Yet another case study for B&H to maybe learn from

I don’t any are free in Prague unless I’m mistaken.

 

[GT49er]

Yep we could reduce the queue’s with one of these trundling past every 5 minutes View attachment 197039

One every five minutes, you say? Think again!

https://www.mediastorehouse.com/p/629/tram-queues-19649693.jpg.webp

 

[Chicken Run]

Can I just ask - what would be the benefit of a tram in practical terms to the bus in Brighton? I mean the bus often has its own bus lane, follows set routes and has the advantage that it can divert for roadworks/accidents etc. There isn't room for dedicated tram lines on our roads so they would effectively be just buses on rails. Tramlink partly used old railway tracks which makes it excellent but there's none of that down here.
A monorail of course is a whole different story.

 

[Deadly Danson]

View attachment 197043

Now you're talking.

 

[Chicken Run]

Now you're talking.

Driverless too , fully automated stations

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

A tram network is a great way of moving people around ........ in theory

In practice, if they are stuck behind the same cars, vans, buses, taxis and bikes as the rest of the traffic, it offers nothing a bus doesn't

The cities have done this well have done this as part of a complete overhaul of their transport strategy.

So for example, the Old Steine to the Amex proposed route. Around the Level and the bottom of Lewes Road is only one lane, so you'd presumably have to stop cars and maybe bikes from accessing this route. And then after the Vogue Gyratory, what are you prioritising over the bike route, bus land and car lane?

And for context, Birmingham's tram system cost £230m per mile. So using the tram wouldn't just be a cheap hop on and off, if in the astonishingly unlikely event something like that got financed and built.

 

[W3D]

I don’t any are free in Prague unless I’m mistaken.

Not officially, but was there last year and there was no policing of ticketless passengers

 

[Official Old Man]

And also:

Amsterdam, Lisbon, Sydney, Melbourne, Hiroshima, Manchester, Nottingham.....

Endless examples around the world, time to get a comprehensive system in place locally.

I've used Amsterdam but in most cities it's the metro (underground).
Amsterdam worked because the streets were wide and no other traffic. I found a tram turned up within minutes.
Incidently (might have mentioned before), just down from the train station, Queens Road, on the left up high, was the last ever electric cable conection. Probably gone now, cant see it on google maps.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I don’t any are free in Prague unless I’m mistaken.

Depends how old you are. All public transport is free there for people of, um, a certain age

 

[Eeyore]

Here a great resource to play around with too

Rail Map online - historic railways, railroads and canals

UK, Ireland and US historic railways, railroads and canals. Includes waggonways, tramways, stations, metro and narrow gauge lines displayed on an interactive Google Map.

www.railmaponline.com

Oh my word. I need to gather myself. That makes me come over all queer. I may be gone a while.

 

[GT49er]

Can I just ask - what would be the benefit of a tram in practical terms to the bus in Brighton? I mean the bus often has its own bus lane, follows set routes and has the advantage that it can divert for roadworks/accidents etc. There isn't room for dedicated tram lines on our roads so they would effectively be just buses on rails. Tramlink partly used old railway tracks which makes it excellent but there's none of that down here.
A monorail of course is a whole different story.

You just have to look at a city with a modern tram system to see how much better it works than a city without. Cleaner, better, faster, smoother, more comfortable than buses - and prattish stupid selfish other road users who think nothing of clogging up a bus lane just don't mess with trams - clearly obvious observed fact.

 

[GT49er]

Depends how old you are. All public transport is free there for people of, um, a certain age

Good job too. If it wasn't for the money bus companies get paid for conveying OAPs with bus passes, there wouldn't be a bus service in many cases - so be grateful to us old codgers with bus passes making sure that you have a bus to use!

 

[jackalbion]

Can I just ask - what would be the benefit of a tram in practical terms to the bus in Brighton? I mean the bus often has its own bus lane, follows set routes and has the advantage that it can divert for roadworks/accidents etc. There isn't room for dedicated tram lines on our roads so they would effectively be just buses on rails. Tramlink partly used old railway tracks which makes it excellent but there's none of that down here.
A monorail of course is a whole different story.

Boring but ultimately, SENSIBLE answer sadly.

 

[jackalbion]

Here a great resource to play around with too

Rail Map online - historic railways, railroads and canals

UK, Ireland and US historic railways, railroads and canals. Includes waggonways, tramways, stations, metro and narrow gauge lines displayed on an interactive Google Map.

www.railmaponline.com

This is the greatest source of information I have ever come across in my life, literally spend hours on it. Bring back the George Street to Shoreham tram I say!

 

[ofco8]

View attachment 197043

Looks like Wuppertal in Germany. Travelled on this a couple of years ago. Great system.

 

[ofco8]

They’re going to need more than one tram surely?

This is proposed for Stanmer Park.