9 Games Left - Loan Striker?

[B.W.]

We did sort the problem as soon as Bong got injured: Liam Rosenior. We wouldn't have got a LB better than him on loan. It was just mega unlucky that he got a 12 week injury days after the window closed.

Hang on. The club knew we had a need for a LB and signed Ridgewell (not a left-back IMHO), but the issue was NOT addressed properly and, eventually, we went on a bad run / lost points as a result. I know the club can do no wrong in your eyes, the club were very unlucky, but....

 

[BensGrandad]

We have 4 strikers (plus Murphy and Skalak) fighting for 2 positions; the cover is already there. It would only be worth bringing someone in if they're better than what we have and walk into the starting 11, and that would risk upsetting what is an obviously great team spirit.

Murphy and Skalak are more wide men... As it stands we have 2 fit strikers Wilson and Hemed. BZ injured and Baldock went off, granted as a precaution, but none the less not 100% fit. We didnt need a left back better than LR we needed one better than Calderon and Chicksen. CH acknowledged this and brought in Ridgewell but too little too late as the damege had been done.

 

[darkwolf666]

With a gain of £100m to £178m at stake for promotion it is a no brainer. If CH thinks we may need and wants a striker to help achieve this to cover inures etc then there is only 1 answer between now and Thursday. Bring him in whoever it is.

Ah, but there's the issue, maybe Mr Hughton thinks we have the right players right now! You can't legislate for injuries and yes I understand the insurance policy of having someone available, just in case, but I am still not convinced that player whoever he is will be match ready to just step into the cauldron of the final games, but as a dullard obviously I don't get it, whatever it might be!

 

[B.W.]

We have 4 strikers (plus Murphy and Skalak) fighting for 2 positions; the cover is already there. It would only be worth bringing someone in if they're better than what we have and walk into the starting 11, and that would risk upsetting what is an obviously great team spirit.

Nonsense. We KNOW BZ is not going to last 90 mins. We know Wilson is young and inconsistent. Yes, we have Tomer and Sam, but Jiri and Jamie are NOT strikers. We ARE going for the biggest prize in football, and you want us to run a huge risk, because a loan player MIGHT disrupt team spirit. Your logic is NOT sound. Sorry.

 

[BensGrandad]

Nonsense. We KNOW BZ is not going to last 90 mins. We know Wilson is young and inconsistent. Yes, we have Tomer and Sam, but Jiri and Jamie are NOT strikers. We ARE going for the biggest prize in football, and you want us to run a huge risk, because a loan player MIGHT disrupt team spirit. Your logic is NOT sound. Sorry.

Using GM as an example I would be reasonably sure that he is on good terms with most of the current team due to living in Brighton and using the gym facilities near The Amex.so team spirit wouldnt be an issue. The big issue is whether CH thinks we need more cover and has he learnt from the Bong injury, if so go and get one this week.

 

[B.W.]

Ah, but there's the issue, maybe Mr Hughton thinks we have the right players right now! You can't legislate for injuries and yes I understand the insurance policy of having someone available, just in case, but I am still not convinced that player whoever he is will be match ready to just step into the cauldron of the final games, but as a dullard obviously I don't get it, whatever it might be!

Say you were 3rd favourite to win a running race but, with a bit of money spent on a personal trainer, you could make yourself 2nd favourite. If you are 1st or 2nd in the race, you make the Olympic team, worth £1M in sponsorship. If you finish 3rd, then you get nowt (maybe an elimination race). The personal trainer costs £20 per hour and you need 5 hours of training, so £100 outlay... wouldn't you spend the money? Of, course, the trainer may disrupt your preparations!

 

[B.W.]

Using GM as an example I would be reasonably sure that he is on good terms with most of the current team due to living in Brighton and using the gym facilities near The Amex.so team spirit wouldnt be an issue. The big issue is whether CH thinks we need more cover and has he learnt from the Bong injury, if so go and get one this week.

TBH I think the big issue here is Eddie. I would expect Chris would see the value of bringing Muzza on-board and Muzza would want to come...

 

[Bold Seagull]

Say you were 3rd favourite to win a running race but, with a bit of money spent on a personal trainer, you could make yourself 2nd favourite. If you are 1st or 2nd in the race, you make the Olympic team, worth £1M in sponsorship. If you finish 3rd, then you get nowt. The personal trainer costs £20 per hour and you need 5 hours of training, so £100 outlay... wouldn't you spend the money? Of, course, the trainer may disrupt your preparations!

TB may be fully committed to spending the money, but no point spending it if nothing is available. You seem to believe this is just about us not wanting to spend. Who actually wants to release a top striker at this stage of the season!!?? If I was Eddie Howe for example, even with my options I'd want everyone available to finish as high as possible.

 

[Bold Seagull]

TBH I think the big issue here is Eddie. I would expect Chris would see the value of bringing Muzza on-board and Muzza would want to come...

Oh yes....er.....see above, I thought that you....oh well never mind, same page in the end.

 

[nwgull]

Murphy and Skalak are more wide men... As it stands we have 2 fit strikers Wilson and Hemed. BZ injured and Baldock went off, granted as a precaution, but none the less not 100% fit. We didnt need a left back better than LR we needed one better than Calderon and Chicksen. CH acknowledged this and brought in Ridgewell but too little too late as the damege had been done.

So basically, we had about 2 weeks to go and find a LB that was: better than Calderon/Chicksen; made available for loan by his club; and willing to come and sit on our bench (at best) on the off chance that LR were to get injured. I'm sure that there were plenty of options.

In the end, the best we could get was Ridgewell, who did OK but was nothing special. Significantly, he played every game he was with us. Do you think that he'd have been happy to come in November if he thought that it was to sit on our bench as back up?

 

[8ace]

In the end, the best we could get was Ridgewell, who did OK but was nothing special. Significantly, he played every game he was with us. Do you think that he'd have been happy to come in November if he thought that it was to sit on our bench as back up?

He was still playing for Portland in December

 

[nwgull]

Hang on. The club knew we had a need for a LB and signed Ridgewell (not a left-back IMHO), but the issue was NOT addressed properly and, eventually, we went on a bad run / lost points as a result. I know the club can do no wrong in your eyes, the club were very unlucky, but....

Ridgewell was most likely the best option that we had available to us.

 

[nwgull]

He was still playing for Portland in December

This is exactly my point: BG seems to think that the club could and should have signed a LB the week after Bong got injured. The fact that there were probably none available that were better than Calde or Chicksen doesn't seem to have registered.

 

[atomised]

So to get this straight in the gospel according to BG the bad run of results was solely down to.the left back issue and nothing at all to do with the Lua Lua injury and then March going off injured at Derby, the game at which the bad run started.
Id figured the supply line to the strikers was a big issue as seems to be vindicated by current form but clearly I was wrong.
For the record I thought we needed to bring a left back in but only one who could improve the squad.

 

[chaileyjem]

TBH I think the big issue here is Eddie. I would expect Chris would see the value of bringing Muzza on-board and Muzza would want to come...

So lets say Murray won't come , for whatever reason.

What other strikers who are match fit, kicking their heels, could walk into our team, are presumably 4th or 5th choice at their respective clubs and come and play Championship football and score goals for us.

Who ?

 

[BensGrandad]

So to get this straight in the gospel according to BG the bad run of results was solely down to.the left back issue and nothing at all to do with the Lua Lua injury and then March going off injured at Derby, the game at which the bad run started.
Id figured the supply line to the strikers was a big issue as seems to be vindicated by current form but clearly I was wrong.
For the record I thought we needed to bring a left back in but only one who could improve the squad.

It was Bong who was supplying Lua Lua / Murphy and that stopped when he got injured. Granted nobody could have foreseen the injury to LR but the cover for LR was very poor and a defender is more likely to pick up a red card. No one will convince me that knowing the extent of Bongs injury and the possible time he would be out, it was a sensible decision not to bring a loan signing in, who even a Premier youngster would probably have been better than Calderon and Chicksen. This not in hindsight as I said it at the time. Yes the bad run wasnt helped by the lack of supply to the wide men and subsequently the front men.

 

[darkwolf666]

Say you were 3rd favourite to win a running race but, with a bit of money spent on a personal trainer, you could make yourself 2nd favourite. If you are 1st or 2nd in the race, you make the Olympic team, worth £1M in sponsorship. If you finish 3rd, then you get nowt (maybe an elimination race). The personal trainer costs £20 per hour and you need 5 hours of training, so £100 outlay... wouldn't you spend the money? Of, course, the trainer may disrupt your preparations!

That's a solo pursuit rather than a team game. Very different where there is no team spirit or balance to be upset!

 

[B.W.]

Ridgewell was most likely the best option that we had available to us.

Possibly. Not sure. We'll never know... at least we got someone in... let's hope we do the same with Muzza...

 

[B.W.]

So lets say Murray won't come , for whatever reason.

What other strikers who are match fit, kicking their heels, could walk into our team, are presumably 4th or 5th choice at their respective clubs and come and play Championship football and score goals for us.

Who ?

Not my job to answer that. And you don't know Muzza is unavailable anyway...

 

[B.W.]

That's a solo pursuit rather than a team game. Very different where there is no team spirit or balance to be upset!

And there I was thinking you would buy-in to my analogy... ah well! :-(