86.7% season ticket renewals...

[Brovion]

20,000 odd thousand STs is brilliant. I've said it before, but that is WAY bigger than we expected when we used to discuss 'Falmer' attendances on here whilst we were waiting (and fighting) for the go-ahead to build the stadium. Especially as the 'Falmer' honeymoon is well and truly over and we've just had a shit season.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

BUT, we could be doing so much better so, no, it is not 'amazing'.

You are wrong. As you say we could be doing so much better. However in the circumstances it is amazing.

 

[dazzer6666]

20,000 odd thousand STs is brilliant. I've said it before, but that is WAY bigger than we expected when we used to discuss 'Falmer' attendances on here whilst we were waiting (and fighting) for the go-ahead to build the stadium. Especially as the 'Falmer' honeymoon is well and truly over and we've just had a shit season.

This. Let's get this season over and start again in August. In the Championship.

 

[Stat Brother]

The season ticket is just another utility DD bill that appears on the 'house account' statement.

Without that facility we never would have been holders in the first place.
It's still a lot of cash, I can't do too many seasons like this one, but with August comes hope.

 

[Diego Napier]

well let's hope that the 13% will be made up with the supporters who have only come along to moan and bitch. Perhaps they will be better off following their Prem team and watch it down the pub just as they used to do

And if they could just stop supporting NSC as well as BHA that would be perfect!

 

[Miami Seagull]

Nearly 20k season ticket holders is outstanding, especially after all the crap we have had to endure this season. But I hope the club are concerned too, a loss of a fifth of your season ticket holders in 2 years is a cause for concern and a more positive philosophy is needed on the pitch. Next season will be critical.

 

[oneillco]

Was the 86.7% recorded at the deadline point when you had to actually contact the club to cancel the renewal? Because since then plenty have canceled including myself and two friends.

Cheerio

 

[reigate]

20,000 odd thousand STs is brilliant. I've said it before, but that is WAY bigger than we expected when we used to discuss 'Falmer' attendances on here whilst we were waiting (and fighting) for the go-ahead to build the stadium. Especially as the 'Falmer' honeymoon is well and truly over and we've just had a shit season.

Agreed. I remember back in 2002 ish I was interviewing dick knight as part of my university dissertation. We had a big game that eve and he asked me what sort of crowd we would have got that night if we were playing at either the goldstone or falmer. We both agreed on about 12000. I know football has moved on but I think we only averaged about 8000 in 1991 when we got to Wembley to get to old div 1

 

[Janbha]

So in reality about the same amount of season ticket holders next season as what there were in the 1st season at The Amex , pretty good considering our position this season .

 

[chaileyjem]

Nearly 20k season ticket holders is outstanding, especially after all the crap we have had to endure this season. But I hope the club are concerned too, a loss of a fifth of your season ticket holders in 2 years is a cause for concern and a more positive philosophy is needed on the pitch. Next season will be critical.

Agreed. NB: if numbers do tick up to 20K season ticket holders next season then that is a decline of 13% in the last 2 years not a fifth/20%. We had reportedly an all time high of 23K in 13/14 and reportedly 21.5K this season.

In terms of overall tickets sold then crowds are also holding up perhaps reflecting higher away fan turn out or attempts to sell match day tickets.
Albion's average crowds this season is 25,605 with 1 game to play.
A decline this year of about 6% on last year's all time peak of 27,110 but more than 5 Prem League clubs and the third biggest in the Champ (behind Derby and Norwich). .

 

[Working class pride]

Agreed. I remember back in 2002 ish I was interviewing dick knight as part of my university dissertation. We had a big game that eve and he asked me what sort of crowd we would have got that night if we were playing at either the goldstone or falmer. We both agreed on about 12000. I know football has moved on but I think we only averaged about 8000 in 1991 when we got to Wembley to get to old div 1

Football, was very different and that was one good season after more rubbish since falling out of top flight in 1983. To put into context, Palace finished 3rd in the top flight in the late 80's/ early 90s and averaged around 14,000. Around that era as well, a second tier Newcastle were pulling gates against the likes of Oxford of around 14,000. Now they get 50,000 every week (well unless they have a boycott on).

 

[chaileyjem]

Our average crowd this season will be the third largest average crowd in the entire history of the club. (Just behind 2013 and 2014).

 

[John Byrnes Mullet]

If Bloom spends some money on decent players then for sure we will soon see the other 13% return.

 

[WATFORD zero]

What's the break even crowd figure?

If you are trying to find some bad news to latch onto, I'd politely suggest that you save yourself the trouble of that line of investigation and try a different angle. And I hope my reply doesn't get interpreted as rude in any shape or form as I certainly wouldn't want to give that impression.

 

[Working class pride]

If Bloom spends some money on decent players then for sure we will soon see the other 13% return.

Spending money doesnt mean success tho'. Look at Wimbledon in the 80's. However imagine if we had had the success the likes of Wigan, Wimbledon and Palace have enjoyed over the last 30 years instead of the decline, dross and failure we have been served. This club could be something, if we had a half decent side. Sadly generations of Albion fans have been saying that since the war, but the club has never delivered a top half top flight side. The club has no right to command the support it remarkably does.

 

[Questions]

All your 'unpopular viewpoints' tend to be anything that you may consider the most controversial things you can think of, (pretty much all invented by you) looking for people to bite and seem intent on causing resentment towards the club that you claim to support.

Its extremely dull and sad that someone seeks to find a way of moaning about pretty much anything the club does or has done for the fans and to try to undermine all the clubs efforts at every opportunity.



It doesn't matter if it's done in a rude way or not, often your posts have no actual basis in fact and are just pure, potentially club damaging speculation and even when you are shown to be wrong, you just carry on with your original view or you switch to a new negative subject which is again based on utter rubbish, and once again, your just looking for a reaction. You never provide any source or proof to back up your view

It seems that you have no real affinity towards the Albion any more but you just want to be the centre of attention on here and the only way you can get that is to constantly criticise everything they do because you know people will respond. , Sadly some people will read that sort of nonsense on here, and start to believe it, and it spreads and something thats not true suddenly becomes a big issue and discourages others from going or gives them a negative mindset going to watch the next game (and therefore less likely to get behind the players / team during the match and more likely to be wound up by tiny, trivial things) without realising it was done as a trolling, attention seeking exercise based on wild speculation with no basis in fact.

I just don't get why someone who would claim to want to watch and support the Albion would spend so much time trying to discourage others from going!!

He is recruiting for Burgess Hill.

 

[Bad Ash]

So, using the back of a fag packet for calculations, we had about 23,000 STH, of which about 3,200 are 1901 Members. So of the remaining 19,800, we've lost around 2,600 making about 17,200 non-1901 STHs. Adding in the 3,200 1901 members, we have roughly 20,400 STH.

Shouldn't you add new season ticket holders? Or have they netted the renewal figure with new sales?

 

[Diego Napier]

I like to think i put an unpopular viewpoint in a considered and thoughtful and tiresome and dull-witted and thick-skinned and repetitive and tedious and boring and wearing and dreary and soul-destroying and negative and uninspiring and cracked-record-like and banal and monotonous and sorely trying way and i'm never rude.

I think I'd like to agree.

 

[Sheebo]

As a Brighton fan from an Albion family, who can follow this club since pre war, then I know the bad times, lots of lower league football and I know the mildly good times such as promotion to the top flight and a cup final losing appearance / getting relegated the same year, but I dont actually remember any "good times" with a top half top flight side.

You think the only real good times is top half of the 1st division? Wow. Not many clubs get that. The really good times are ones like pissing the league one title against he odds, winning at Cardiff v Brizzle, being competitive in the Championship. Each to their own but most realise we're not a big prem club!

 

[Working class pride]

You think the only real good times is top half of the 1st division? Wow. Not many clubs get that. The really good times are ones like pissing the league one title against he odds, winning at Cardiff v Brizzle, being competitive in the Championship. Each to their own but most realise we're not a big prem club!

I agree with you but I was just pointing out that for the size of the support we have, we have not had "good times" since 1910 as defined by the press /most football fans. We have and always have had a great support despite the jokers on the pitch, but yes my best days following the club have nothing to do with the top flight. Lucky really as an Albion fan, but I would like us to one day wake up and start to actually punch above rather than below our weight as a club. A real desire to win trophies and be in the top half of the top flight, just once would be nice. Tired of watching little clubs like Wigan, Wimbledon, now possibly Bournemouth look at their success as we sit twiddling our thumbs in the lower leagues. You are also wrong, in terms of support we are a big prem side, the problem is the team and always has been since 1910.