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[Insel affe]

just over 16 is a bit close to the mark unless the bloke is less than 21.

All a nonsense again and just another opportunity for a minority to get offended

Last time I checked women are just over 50% of the population add to that male parents are fathers to daughters and that figure goes through the roof that are offended and concerned, I am one of the later.

Women dress up , blokes audibly show their appreciation.
Mostly its delivered and accepted in the good fun its intended.

I am over 50 and have been working on building sites and other industries, I have seen men shout out obscenities and less harmless comments as you proclaim... Never ever ever have I seen a women stop and thank anyone, or turn and smile back with a wink....

Always exceptions but blokes are blokes and the easily offended piping up wont change that

Bloke are blokes what a load of bollox, I have an evil, wicked sense of humour but I have never made a women feel awkward or made sexual comments to them, I guess I was just brought up to respect women and never felt the need to make those comments, it is not about being offended, it is about what is right, and I would not want my daughter subjected to unwanted comments by people living in the past.

 

[Napper]

Last time I checked women are just over 50% of the population add to that male parents are fathers to daughters and that figure goes through the roof that are offended and concerned, I am one of the later.



I am over 50 and have been working on building sites and other industries, I have seen men shout out obscenities and less harmless comments as you proclaim... Never ever ever have I seen a women stop and thank anyone, or turn and smile back with a wink....



Bloke are blokes what a load of bollox, I have an evil, wicked sense of humour but I have never made a women feel awkward or made sexual comments to them, I guess I was just brought up to respect women and never felt the need to make those comments, it is not about being offended, it is about what is right, and I would not want my daughter subjected to unwanted comments by people living in the past.

I've seen loads of women lap it up.

Also seen it in reverse with women cat calling men and even stronger actions.

It goes on.

The level your talking sounds like the sinister level , the majority is just a bit of fun and luckily both sides know it as that.

 

[ozzygull]

I think it supprisies many men is that women who dress up, do so to feel good about themselves. They are not doing it to impress a guys in the street.

 

[ozzygull]

I've seen loads of women lap it up.

Also seen it in reverse with women cat calling men and even stronger actions.

It goes on.

The level your talking sounds like the sinister level , the majority is just a bit of fun and luckily both sides know it as that.

Women in a group on a night out will probably give as good as they get. A single person walking down the street will not appreciate it.

 

[Klaas]

just over 16 is a bit close to the mark unless the bloke is less than 21.

All a nonsense again and just another opportunity for a minority to get offended.

Women dress up , blokes audibly show their appreciation.

Mostly its delivered and accepted in the good fun its intended.

Always exceptions but blokes are blokes and the easily offended piping up wont change that

Women are a minority now?

 

[Weststander]

I think it supprisies many men is that women who dress up, do so to feel good about themselves. They are not doing it to impress a guys in the street.

Not disagreeing with that, but also the competitive element with their mates and for school girls sometimes to attract people of a not dissimilar age to them.

But not a 40 year bloke leaning out of a vehicle, when they're a child.

 

[Questions]

If you'd read NSC 15 years ago.....the same blokes with the same attitudes are still with us but tend to share their views only with their pals.

Tis true Harry

PS....... couldn’t get that uniform in a size 18 btw

 

[Scappa]

Not fair play at all for his honesty, he obviously has issues.
Think what his actions can cause to a young girl who is growing up, these comments can have detrimental effects, you never know what issues people are carrying or hiding.
There is already so much pressure on young people full stop in this day and age, to be more grown up with so much more to be taken on board around sexuality.

The man is a sad retard, who obviously can't form a proper relationship and should seek help.

Absolutely. Made me wonder how the female equivalent of the hard of thinking, blowhard type blokes who lack any kind of human empathy would respond to this.


Got it: "Maybe they should Ma'am up"

 

[LlcoolJ]

Not disagreeing with that, but also the competitive element with their mates and for school girls sometimes to attract people of a not dissimilar age to them.

But not a 40 year bloke leaning out of a vehicle, when they're a child.

Correct.

My son is nearly 14. I'm very glad that I don't have a daughter of a similar age.

Not because of letching white van men, she'd have been taught how to deal with idiots. Not an issue.

But the peer pressure from other girls, oh my......

 

[Wozza]

Correct.

My son is nearly 14. I'm very glad that I don't have a daughter of a similar age.

Not because of letching white van men, she'd have been taught how to deal with idiots. Not an issue.

But the peer pressure from other girls, oh my......

I have three sons, and people often ask if I wanted a daughter.

Maybe, but I never wanted a teenage daughter. *shudder*

 

[LlcoolJ]

I have three sons, and people often ask if I wanted a daughter.

Maybe, but I never wanted a teenage daughter. *shudder*

Yeah it's another World. Seen it from the outside with friends with older kids, and now with parents of girls who are a similar age to my son. Of course they aren't all the same but.............

Best of luck to those who have to negotiate it but I'm very happy that I don't.

 

[Weststander]

Correct.

My son is nearly 14. I'm very glad that I don't have a daughter of a similar age.

Not because of letching white van men, she'd have been taught how to deal with idiots. Not an issue.

But the peer pressure from other girls, oh my......

I have both and you're 100% right.

It starts incredibly young, we recall in the reception year the girls looking each down with judgemental/weighing up the competition looks, and that's before the bitching starts or

 

[The Large One]

I've seen loads of women lap it up.

Only in your fantasies.

Also seen it in reverse with women cat calling men and even stronger actions.

It goes on.

Textbook gaslighting.

The level your talking sounds like the sinister level , the majority is just a bit of fun and luckily both sides know it as that.

No, you've already taken it to a sinister level. He is merely pointing that out.

 

[LlcoolJ]

I have both and you're 100% right.

It starts incredibly young, we recall in the reception year the girls looking each down with judgemental/weighing up the competition looks, and that's before the bitching starts or

It's the unspoken truth.

I'm totally pro feminism when it comes to reducing inequality. But nobody talks about or admits that it's mainly girl / girl pressure that causes the majority of weight / looks / clothes issues for girls and women. It's nothing to do with boys or men. Nothing.

Had in depth conversations with female friends, ex girlfriends, my wife about this issue. It's fascinating.

In the long run, none of them are trying to look good / lose weight / be fashionable for men. They know that men are dogs and will want them anyway.

It's other women who they want to impress, not be seen as fat by, piss off because they've pulled a better bloke..................

As I said, it's another world, and as you say, it starts very early.

 

[The Large One]

It's the unspoken truth.

I'm totally pro feminism when it comes to reducing inequality. But nobody talks about or admits that it's mainly girl / girl pressure that causes the majority of weight / looks / clothes issues for girls and women. It's nothing to do with boys or men. Nothing.

Had in depth conversations with female friends, ex girlfriends, my wife about this issue. It's fascinating.

In the long run, none of them are trying to look good / lose weight / be fashionable for men. They know that men are dogs and will want them anyway.

It's other women who they want to impress, not be seen as fat by, piss off because they've pulled a better bloke..................

As I said, it's another world, and as you say, it starts very early.

Can't necessarily agree with you there. These girl/girl attitudes weren't created in a vacuum.

I remember having this conversation with an ex who was/is heavily into the promotion of feminist issues. I was kind of taken with her view on it which was, given the patriarchy society operates within, opportunities for women are fewer and further between than for men.

This conversation was around 25 years ago, and things have slowly changed since then. But I got her point - there was an element of the savage jungle between the women in order to see who could make it to the top in order to either compete with the men, or be best equipped to deal with the toploaded male working environment.

This was - and still is - exacerbated by the promotion by parts of a mainstream media which is still struggling to see young women in any other light than an office adornment. https://www.platinumpublishing.co.uk/dynamic/2020/11/why-do-we-still-link-ability-with-looks/

 

[brightn'ove]

I've seen loads of women lap it up.

Also seen it in reverse with women cat calling men and even stronger actions.

It goes on.

The level your talking sounds like the sinister level , the majority is just a bit of fun and luckily both sides know it as that.

Wow.

 

[blue-shifted]

It's the unspoken truth.

I'm totally pro feminism when it comes to reducing inequality. But nobody talks about or admits that it's mainly girl / girl pressure that causes the majority of weight / looks / clothes issues for girls and women. It's nothing to do with boys or men. Nothing.

Had in depth conversations with female friends, ex girlfriends, my wife about this issue. It's fascinating.

In the long run, none of them are trying to look good / lose weight / be fashionable for men. They know that men are dogs and will want them anyway.

It's other women who they want to impress, not be seen as fat by, piss off because they've pulled a better bloke..................

As I said, it's another world, and as you say, it starts very early.

ha ha. Yeh, I'm so proud of my gender

 

[Weststander]

It's the unspoken truth.

I'm totally pro feminism when it comes to reducing inequality. But nobody talks about or admits that it's mainly girl / girl pressure that causes the majority of weight / looks / clothes issues for girls and women. It's nothing to do with boys or men. Nothing.

Had in depth conversations with female friends, ex girlfriends, my wife about this issue. It's fascinating.

In the long run, none of them are trying to look good / lose weight / be fashionable for men. They know that men are dogs and will want them anyway.

It's other women who they want to impress, not be seen as fat by, piss off because they've pulled a better bloke..................

As I said, it's another world, and as you say, it starts very early.

Females in my life have said the same, they're their own worst enemies in being judgemental of each others looks, weight, dress sense, 99.9% of this behind backs. Whilst female edited magazines from Vogue downwards push the slim, airbrushed 'perfect' look, heaping subliminal pressure on their gender. We've joked before that where a female is pretty good looking in the eyes of many, a wife or gf will say that "her eyes are too wide apart" or "isn't she plain?".

I know we've digressed.

This is a different issue to leering adult males making females feel uncomfortable with their pervy comments, following school girls, having to say something to girls out running. Not to mention physical assaults.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Can't necessarily agree with you there. These girl/girl attitudes weren't created in a vacuum.

I remember having this conversation with an ex who was/is heavily into the promotion of feminist issues. I was kind of taken with her view on it which was, given the patriarchy society operates within, opportunities for women are fewer and further between than for men.

This conversation was around 25 years ago, and things have slowly changed since then. But I got her point - there was an element of the savage jungle between the women in order to see who could make it to the top in order to either compete with the men, or be best equipped to deal with the toploaded male working environment.

This was - and still is - exacerbated by the promotion by parts of a mainstream media which is still struggling to see young women in any other light than an office adornment. https://www.platinumpublishing.co.uk/dynamic/2020/11/why-do-we-still-link-ability-with-looks/

This is the angle that I used to see the issue from. Being brought up by a single parent mum who was pretty strong in her feminist beliefs (still is tbf although she has now been married for over 10 years and likes to be the doting housewife) I sort of presumed that women's issues with weight, looks etc were all down to men, although even as a kid, that never sat right in my head.

It's anecdotal I know, but basically every woman I have spoken to in depth about why they want to lose weight, wear nice clothes, have great hair and so on, it has nothing to do with men.

They want to look good to outshine their friends, sisters, mums even. And the friends, sisters and mums (even) are all the same.

I realise that I'm generalising massively. But it's just what I've learned from experience. And I've never been out with any fake / orange / plastic women, just intelligent ones who (normally) tell the truth.

I also get what you're saying about the competition being created by a patriachal society. But when it comes down to the reality of what is happening now, it is women who are perpetuating the situation far more then men. And from a very young age unfortunately.

 

[LlcoolJ]

ha ha. Yeh, I'm so proud of my gender

Not sure I get your point blud innit.