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4 Looney Lib Dem Policies that will cost them at the ballot box



Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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1) Amnesty on illegal immigrants, and their partners (1.2million people)
2) Scrapping Nuclear defence
3) VAT on new homes, making new homes expensive
4) Joining the Euro and therefore exposing us to giving monies to the likes of Greece.

You would have to be a loony to vote for all of that.
 










Don Quixote

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Nov 4, 2008
8,362
2 isn't too bad, we do not really need nuclear weapons anyway. 4 is a good idea, easier to trade etc.
 






brightonrock

Dodgy Hamstrings
Jan 1, 2008
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1) Amnesty on illegal immigrants, and their partners (1.2million people)
Wasn't that countered by the Tory policy having no effect whatsoever on 800,000 immigrants from the EU, and Labour not having had less than 140,000 immigrants per year since being in charge?
2) Scrapping Nuclear defence
Is not the policy.
3) VAT on new homes, making new homes expensive
Will agree with this one.
4) Joining the Euro and therefore exposing us to giving monies to the likes of Greece.
Will go to a referendum and is not a policy if you read their manifesto, only an openness to the possibility in the future.

You would have to be a loony to vote for all of that.
You'd have to be a loony to be so selective in your criticisms, hearing what you want to hear about the Lib Dems and ignoring the other two parties' policies that don't make sense. Blinkered.
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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Manchester
1) The illegal immegrants are going to stick around working, amnesty or not, so we may as well get them in the system and paying tax.
2) They're proposing to 'replace' Trident, not scrapping nuclear defence completely
 




Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
1. The two main parties have made a complete porridge of immigration, scrapping the entry and exit controls, as a result we have absolutely no idea whatsoever how many non-British people are living here illegal or otherwise. Declaring an amnesty on illegals who have been here over ten years, combined with much tighter border controls, will at least go some way to rectifying the mess. These people can then be brought into the tax system and contribute to society, they are already here and probably won't leave of their own volition, at least then we would have an idea who shouldn't really be here...if we can find them!
 


philsussex

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Dec 9, 2006
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Good Old Sussex By the Sea
1) Amnesty on illegal immigrants, and their partners (1.2million people)
2) Scrapping Nuclear defence
3) VAT on new homes, making new homes expensive
4) Joining the Euro and therefore exposing us to giving monies to the likes of Greece.

You would have to be a loony to vote for all of that.

Shame we can't rewind to before these televised debates whan nobody had ever heard of the Lib Dems
 


Lewes' best seagull

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Jan 31, 2008
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1) The illegal immegrants are going to stick around working, amnesty or not, so we may as well get them in the system and paying tax.
2) They're proposing to 'replace' Trident, not scrapping nuclear defence completely

Aren't they proposing against the replacement of trident?
How I took it was that they were delaying it while it wasn't essential and still in some kind of working condition(not an expert) and waiting until the recovery is done.

Or I'm wrong.(quite likely)
 




nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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Manchester
Shame we can't rewind to before these televised debates whan nobody had ever heard of the Lib Dems

Shame for the Tories, the raised profile of the Lib Dems is probably going to cost them the majority government they thought was theirs.
 


Normal Rob

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Jul 8, 2003
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Somerset
Interesting to see the amount of (mainly tory) people going out of their way to put the Lib Dems down. If i was them I'd take that as a backhanded compliment.
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
Interesting to see the amount of (mainly tory) people going out of their way to put the Lib Dems down. If i was them I'd take that as a backhanded compliment.

It's because this is what will cost them the election (like I said above). I think that the Tories have about 20 Libdem target seats that they need to gain to have a chance, but with the large and sustained swing to the Libdems in the past 2 weeks the potential for them to win these seats isn't looking good.
 




philsussex

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Dec 9, 2006
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Good Old Sussex By the Sea
It's because this is what will cost them the election (like I said above). I think that the Tories have about 20 Libdem target seats that they need to gain to have a chance, but with the large and sustained swing to the Libdems in the past 2 weeks the potential for them to win these seats isn't looking good.

I heard somewhere that it's not unusual for the polls to swing towards LibDem before polling day but people tend to come to their senses by the time it comes to vote. Hope so anyway.
 


Silent Bob

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Dec 6, 2004
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The minute we get rid of Trident China are going to bomb the shit out of us. :lol:
 


Race

The Tank Rules!
Aug 28, 2004
7,822
Hampshire
1. The two main parties have made a complete porridge of immigration, scrapping the entry and exit controls, as a result we have absolutely no idea whatsoever how many non-British people are living here illegal or otherwise. Declaring an amnesty on illegals who have been here over ten years, combined with much tighter border controls, will at least go some way to rectifying the mess. These people can then be brought into the tax system and contribute to society, they are already here and probably won't leave of their own volition, at least then we would have an idea who shouldn't really be here...if we can find them!

but for people to be contributing and paying tax then they would have to be working. say, for instance, that there are 500,000 illegals here. that would mean there would have to be 500,000 jobs! highly unlikely. even if half of them get jobs, that still leaves 250,000 people who will be claiming benefits. also, they will want re-housing!
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
but for people to be contributing and paying tax then they would have to be working. say, for instance, that there are 500,000 illegals here. that would mean there would have to be 500,000 jobs! highly unlikely. even if half of them get jobs, that still leaves 250,000 people who will be claiming benefits. also, they will want re-housing!

So if they're not doing jobs now, how are they surviving?
 




Colossal Squid

Returning video tapes
Feb 11, 2010
4,906
Under the sea
The fact is the Tories should have been home and dry MONTHS ago. All they needed to do was come up with a handful of realistic policies and ride the wave of unrest against the current Labour government.

But they didn't, they've not come up with ONE SINGLE policy and all they've managed to do is swipe at their opposition, which before these debates was entirely insignificant.

Now Clegg and the Lib Dems have managed to win people over through POLITICS, a subject the Tories seem to have completely forgotten, and all of a sudden the Conservatives are shitting it that they probably should have come up with SOMETHING... ANYTHING even
 


Race

The Tank Rules!
Aug 28, 2004
7,822
Hampshire
So if they're not doing jobs now, how are they surviving?

probably some are working in seedy jobs i.e cockle picking, prostitution etc. maybe some are involved in crime etc. hardly things that are going to be able to get taxed
 


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