[Football] 4 E nglish teams

[portlock seagull]

Same for all PL clubs, so what makes an English club English?

The players of course, with arguably a nod to including other UK nationalities due to our union. But in this age of mega money and global dominance it shouldn’t come as any surprise every PL is generally stuffed with foreign talent. There’s no way a tiny nation can produce that many quality players in every position. Naturally money talks and the best come here from around the world subsequently as the ‘best league in the world’ (highest paying anyway). But these clubs are no more English these days than the Foreign Legion is French. It’s a PL success story. But not an EC one. That’s all.

 

[AmexRuislip]

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

The players of course, with arguably a nod to including other UK nationalities due to our union. But in this age of mega money and global dominance it shouldn’t come as any surprise every PL is generally stuffed with foreign talent. There’s no way a tiny nation can produce that many quality players in every position. Naturally money talks and the best come here from around the world subsequently as the ‘best league in the world’ (highest paying anyway). But these clubs are no more English these days than the Foreign Legion is French. It’s a PL success story. But not an EC one. That’s all.

I sort of agree with you, but what you have described above is most top flight clubs world wide (and a number of second tier clubs) and the clubs are put forward to represent England by the FA.

 

[portlock seagull]

I sort of agree with you, but what you have described above is most top flight clubs world wide (and a number of second tier clubs) and the clubs are put forward to represent England by the FA.

Oh, I don’t disagree. It’s not exclusive to PL. Nearly all the richest clubs (refuse to call them top) worldwide are the same, Even National teams are at it. Jack Charlton has a lot to answer for!

 

[schmunk]

So you wouldn’t be able to name a full match day squad

You would, as you'd have 2.5 HGP to add to your 17 non-HGP.

You could have Ryan Fraser as your 0.5.

 

[heathgate]

It also means next seasons Super Cup will also be an all English affair.

In Istanbul.

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[DumLum]

All joking aside, it actually is, to be honest. Its an enormous, and entirely avoidable drain on financial and environmental resources, when there are magnificent stadia on the doorstep of the finalists.

Arsenal v Chelsea could be at the incredible new Spurs ground.
Liverpool v Tottenham at Wembley.

Perfect.

Never going to happen.
Money trumps everything.

 

[nicko31]

All joking aside, it actually is, to be honest. Its an enormous, and entirely avoidable drain on financial and environmental resources, when there are magnificent stadia on the doorstep of the finalists.

Arsenal v Chelsea could be at the incredible new Spurs ground.
Liverpool v Tottenham at Wembley.

Don't worry UEFA are doing their bit to save the planet with their tiny allocation. saves the planet

 

[Blues Rock DJ]

I think that this is the first time that both European finals have been betwen 4 teams in the same league from the same country.

you forgot to add......in 70 years !!

 

[Blues Rock DJ]

Just a shame and a sad indictment, that there won't be too many English players taking part !

 

[Gregory2Smith1]

I don't know where you find out stats like this

but,I wouldn't mind betting that the amount of British players that have played in a Euopean Cup final
would be somewhere near the top,compared with other nations

 

[Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ]

I don't know where you find out stats like this

but,I wouldn't mind betting that the amount of British players that have played in a Euopean Cup final
would be somewhere near the top,compared with other nations

Around 5th...



Player stats for Champions League final appearances over the past 15 years by Nationality


1. Spanish 70
2. Brasilian 40
3. German 40
4. French 36
5. English 34
6. Italian 25
7. Portugese 25
8. Argentinian
9. Dutch 18
10. Croatian 12

Spain light years ahead of everyone else

 

[Weststander]

Oh, I don’t disagree. It’s not exclusive to PL. Nearly all the richest clubs (refuse to call them top) worldwide are the same, Even National teams are at it. Jack Charlton has a lot to answer for!

Real Madrid started all this 60 years ago with world class Hungarians, then Barca and Inter/ACMilan/Juve did the same.

It’s a minor miracle that Celtic, Ajax, Liverpool, Forest, Villa won the top trophy almost exclusively with players from their own neck of the woods.

The improvement in English clubs now, is not just on the playing side, but due also to recruiting the top coaches in their prime (not old masters, only here for the pay day).

 

[Weststander]

Around 5th...



Player stats for Champions League final appearances over the past 15 years by Nationality


1. Spanish 70
2. Brasilian 40
3. German 40
4. French 36
5. English 34
6. Italian 25
7. Portugese 25
8. Argentinian
9. Dutch 18
10. Croatian 12

Spain light years ahead of everyone else

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You’ve arbitrarily selected 15 years.

Wasn’t [MENTION=21669]Gregory2,Smith1[/MENTION] referring to European Cup Finals in their totality?

 

[Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ]

You’ve arbitrarily selected 15 years.

Wasn’t [MENTION=21669]Gregory2,Smith1[/MENTION] referring to European Cup Finals in their totality?

Hmnnn... Arbitrarily.... 15 years was all the data I could be assed to compile, it was interesting for a bit! Feel free to add more data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KozRxGKTvPboxbnNL50iOq8UbVBA4JJd7r3tanRm5J4

 

[Hampster Gull]

London

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

You could not re-locate Liverpool to Spain and build a new stadium. The club would collapse. It would not be Liverpool. They are not franchises although they are a brand.

You could move it to China, or India, or Ireland and it wouldn’t collapse.

 

[loco61]

if you add the Scottish and Welsh which we arbitrarily like to do , "British" is 2nd … which was Gregory 2,Smith 1´s "i wouldnt mind betting"

 

[Nottseagull]

if you add the Scottish and Welsh which we arbitrarily like to do , "British" is 2nd … which was Gregory 2,Smith 1´s "i wouldnt mind betting"

The odd thing about that list is that it doesn't contain the word 'Turkish'!

 

[Dick Head]

And three of them from the same city, within 12 miles of each other.

I hadn't thought of that aspect. That's quite something really.

Not many of them are Londoners though. They should all be Cockneys, otherwise it doesn't count.