2nd Test: England v Pakistan, Old Trafford

[Bold Seagull]

Thought I read somewhere though that Root's average gets lower almost in direct proportion to the higher in the order he goes. There was some consternation even moving him up to 3 let alone opening again,

I wouldn't move him from 4, let alone to 3 or opening.

 

[Titanic]

Thought I read somewhere though that Root's average gets lower almost in direct proportion to the higher in the order he goes. There was some consternation even moving him up to 3 let alone opening again,

He averages 33.4 opening (10 innings all against Australia in England and very early in his Test career).

 

[pasty]

He averages 33.4 opening (10 innings all against Australia in England).

What does he average not opening then? Not arguing, just interested as I'm sure I read he has lower average opening than not.

 

[Titanic]

What does he average not opening then? Not arguing, just interested as I'm sure I read he has lower average opening than not.

Significantly more as his overall average is 52.3, but not all against Australia and not all early in his career.

 

[BensGrandad]

I am sure that if asked to help out Trescothick would come back for a test and do a job. Obviously not a long term solution but we had to win this test.

 

[Bold Seagull]

We could end up destroying Root if we keep moving him about the order. His best position is clearly 4, we're moving him because everyone else is crap, not because suddenly we think he should open. Root should only open if it seems that is where his game is heading and what he wants to do. Moving him because we don't have a decent 2 or 3 in my opinion is the wrong way of approaching it.

 

[BensGrandad]

We could end up destroying Root if we keep moving him about the order. His best position is clearly 4, we're moving him because everyone else is crap, not because suddenly we think he should open. Root should only open if it seems that is where his game is heading and what he wants to do. Moving him because we don't have a decent 2 or 3 in my opinion is the wrong way of approaching it.

Correct

 

[spring hall convert]

Maybe we should get WG Grace back in for a test.

 

[CHAPPERS]

I am sure that if asked to help out Trescothick would come back for a test and do a job. Obviously not a long term solution but we had to win this test.

You do have some funny ideas, BensGrandad.

 

[CHAPPERS]

Maybe we should get WG Grace back in for a test.

lol

 

[Titanic]

England 52-1 (15.2 overs)

Cook 30*(53) Root 12*(19)

 

[Titanic]

Maybe we should get WG Grace back in for a test.

Boycott could bat against this lot with a stick of rhubarb.

 

[pasty]

Has Root decided it is too warm to be running today? 12 of his 13 thus far have been 3 x 4's

 

[hans kraay fan club]

WG Grace is DEAD. Ridiculous suggestion.

Can we please keep the discussion sensible, and limit suggestions to players who are ex-England batsmen, 40-odd years old, with a history of mental struggles in the International spotlight.

Tresco, Trott and Yardy at numbers 3, 4 and 6 sound ideal.

 

[Postman Pat]

WG Grace is DEAD. Ridiculous suggestion.

Can we please keep the discussion sensible, and limit suggestions to players who are ex-England batsmen, 40-odd years old, with a history of mental struggles in the International spotlight.

Tresco, Trott and Yardy at numbers 3, 4 and 6 sound ideal.

Graeme Fowler?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Graeme Fowler?

Cook, Fowler, Trott, Tresco, Root, Yardy.

Sorted

 

[pasty]

Cook, Fowler, Trott, Tresco, Root, Yardy.

Sorted

Can't we bring Strauss and Vaughan back?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Can't we bring Strauss and Vaughan back?

Taking all of the various factors into account, Vaughan is probably a slightly LESS ridiculous suggestion than Trescothick.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Cook, Fowler, Trott, Tresco, Root, Yardy.

Sorted

Surely that Pietersen fella is worth a go. Would give the dressing room a right lift too, I'd imagine.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Surely that Pietersen fella is worth a go. Would give the dressing room a right lift too, I'd imagine.

Excellent shout. Best wait until he's matured a bit though. I'll definitely support this suggestion, once he hits his mid forties.