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[TV] 24hrs in Police Custody



Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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thiink it is an excellent series.. alas they only portray the shite that the public create...a hard watch at times, but it is the reality of our world...

Of a small part of our world, these isles certainly.

(I don't live in denial at all. I've posted about baby/child killers on nsc before0.
 




rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
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And couldn’t even bring a charge on the first one as they couldn’t pin down the one they thought might have done it!

All very sad …

I thought the law was changed some while ago so that if parents who killed/injured/neglected their kid blamed each other, or both remained silent, they were both held to be equally culpable and they both got sent down.

A bit of it:-

The offence of causing or allowing the death or serious physical harm of a vulnerable adult or child was introduced to cover cases where a child has died or been badly hurt but there is insufficient evidence to prove who committed the act.

“In such cases, before the introduction of this legislation, neither defendant could be found guilty of murder, manslaughter or assault and so nobody would be held accountable. The guideline reflects the aims of the legislation, including, for example, the aggravating factor of an offender blaming others for the offence,” the council said.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/201...-abusers-who-try-to-shift-blame-england-wales
 


Deleted member 37369

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Aug 21, 2018
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I thought the law was changed some while ago so that if parents who killed/injured/neglected their kid blamed each other, or both remained silent, they were both held to be equally culpable and they both got sent down.

A bit of it:-

The offence of causing or allowing the death or serious physical harm of a vulnerable adult or child was introduced to cover cases where a child has died or been badly hurt but there is insufficient evidence to prove who committed the act.

“In such cases, before the introduction of this legislation, neither defendant could be found guilty of murder, manslaughter or assault and so nobody would be held accountable. The guideline reflects the aims of the legislation, including, for example, the aggravating factor of an offender blaming others for the offence,” the council said.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/201...-abusers-who-try-to-shift-blame-england-wales

Thanks for the link. It mentions 'draft guidelines' but I couldn't see anything about timescales to get it into law ... so not sure if it has.

The comment from the police officer leading the case suggests to me that it hasn't changed yet ... in the words of that officer, "If they don't tell you what's happened, you've got nothing. If I can't prove who committed that injury, I can't charge anyone. That's the law".

That seems so wrong to me and I hope the proposed change hasn't got lost!
 




Da Man Clay

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Dec 16, 2004
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I thought the law was changed some while ago so that if parents who killed/injured/neglected their kid blamed each other, or both remained silent, they were both held to be equally culpable and they both got sent down.

A bit of it:-

The offence of causing or allowing the death or serious physical harm of a vulnerable adult or child was introduced to cover cases where a child has died or been badly hurt but there is insufficient evidence to prove who committed the act.

“In such cases, before the introduction of this legislation, neither defendant could be found guilty of murder, manslaughter or assault and so nobody would be held accountable. The guideline reflects the aims of the legislation, including, for example, the aggravating factor of an offender blaming others for the offence,” the council said.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/201...-abusers-who-try-to-shift-blame-england-wales

Most of it is sentencing powers - so someone has to be found guilty first and then get a heftier sentence when it’s found the blaming of another is incorrect.

For the other offence of causing / allowing it has to be shown that the offender foresaw there was a chance of serious injury or death by the actions of the other and then allowed it to continue.. Neither case last night would have fit the criteria.
 
















Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Evil evil *******! Second part tonight

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Biscuit Barrel

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Jan 28, 2014
2,863
Southwick
He should never see the light of day again.

Not sure what to make of the mother. Clearly she was being abused by her partner, but at no point did she show any emotion towards her dead son and she seemed hell bent in protecting the accused. It is a shame that she is at liberty to breed again.
 














pornomagboy

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May 16, 2006
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peacehaven
starts again next week
 


Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Feel for the bloke, I regularly get the urge to ram arseholes off the road!
 


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