[Politics] 2020 US election - Joe Biden vs Donald Trump

[Frutos]

CNN pointing out that all of the state infrastructure, and hence the whole election, in Georgia is run by Republicans, and Biden is still winning (albeit marginally at present).

If there really was fraud as Trump claims, surely the Governor, SoS or another official in Georgia (all Republicans, remember) would have raised the issue?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Unfortunately not that sick as to date over 68 million people have voted for him...…

Only a fraction of the population of 328 million.

 

[stewart12]

this election is going to make for a great film one day

 

[Hugo Rune]

Best of all is this is a Republican governor and republican state apparatus, which will invalidate Trumps wild conspiracy theories of theft and fraud.

Invalidate to whom?

Most reasonable and right thinking folk already believe Trump’s theft and fraud theories are a load of old baloney.

Will this convince his core support, I’m not so sure. I don’t think their faith in Trump can be moved by facts, they are not those types of folk.

 

[nicko31]

The think the big question now is how much can Trump do between now and 21st Jan? Could he do something really really silly?

 

[NooBHA]

this election is going to make for a great film one day

Ring Donald Trump and tell him that - Might be the only way to get him out of the White House

To be honest. Thats the only thing he would be good at - Playing himself in a film about himself

 

[wellquickwoody]

Something about right of centre politics. Lie blatantly. Get proved that you have lied blatantly. Your support STILL believes you. Right of centre support hates being seen to be wrong, or taken in/mugged by bullshit.

You really do not help. I am right of centre (surprise, surprise) but I think Trump is really worthy of the term cxxt. I want to see him shown to lose this election as I want to see him humiliated. That will not be able to be done if he gets a second term and leaves the Whitehouse undefeated.

But you carry on stereotyping.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

A comment on CNN pointed out the vote is very antiTrump. Not anti Republican, because not one Republican Senator has lost their seat, so Trump claiming the postal votes are invalid, means all the votes are invalid.
America is sick of Trump.

I want Biden to win - but your comment is somewhat foolish - half of American is sick of Trump - half is not.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Only a fraction of the population of 328 million.

Again - making yourself look foolish.

That's the population of the USA - not the electorate.

 

[peterward]

Invalidate to whom?

Most reasonable and right thinking folk already believe Trump’s theft and fraud theories are a load of old baloney.

Will this convince his core support, I’m not so sure. I don’t think their faith in Trump can be moved by facts, they are not those types of folk.

Youre looking at this as an intellectual european, Trumpians all watch Fox and they are whipping this up.

have a look at "exclusive clips" on left of Dem minority leader of congress on Fox.

"McCarthy: House Republicans will fight alongside Trump campaign"

https://www.foxnews.com/

 

[Weststander]

Something about right of centre politics. Lie blatantly. Get proved that you have lied blatantly. Your support STILL believes you. Right of centre support hates being seen to be wrong, or taken in/mugged by bullshit.

Both extremes do it, imho.

 

[AK74]

this election is going to make for a great film one day

Ring Donald Trump and tell him that - Might be the only way to get him out of the White House

To be honest. Thats the only thing he would be good at - Playing himself in a film about himself

A script already exists which can partially be adapted. All that's required is for President Trump to learn his lines:

 

[mikeyjh]

Agreed, but one thing people will often forget/neglect about Trump is that he's not pursued an adventurous foreign policy, especially when compared to recent presidents.

Indeed, I said to the other half early on (when it looked like Trump as winning), that one ray of light is that Trump doesn't have a foreign policy!

 

[Guinness Boy]

CNN pointing out that all of the state infrastructure, and hence the whole election, in Georgia is run by Republicans, and Biden is still winning (albeit marginally at present).

If there really was fraud as Trump claims, surely the Governor, SoS or another official in Georgia (all Republicans, remember) would have raised the issue?

Nick Robinson to a Trump flunky on the Today programme this morning:

"So if all this electoral fraud is going on how come the Democrats haven't rigged the Senate election?"

The flunky answered an entirely different question, unsurprisingly.

 

[Dick Head]

Georgia just went blue.

 

[NooBHA]

I want Biden to win - but your comment is somewhat foolish - half of American is sick of Trump - half is not.

I agree with you

And I actually do think that Trump truly believes that he won the Election.

I think he believes that the extra people who turned out to Vote that normally wouldn't Vote. I am convinced he thinks those Votes don't count .

He lives in a little bubble where he thinks everyone can be bought and paid for and he thinks this Election can be bought by having the Right people in the US Supreme Court and all he needs to do to get the Result Overturned is to be able to force it all the way up to that Court. Then he only has to win the Vote of 5 out of the 9 Judges and he will win.

 

[beorhthelm]

saw some comment earlier about the polls for large Biden victory being wrong. currently he has +5% votes, so they seem to have been about right. if as looks likely he takes Georgia, Pennsylvania as well as Nevada, he'll have over 300 EC votes. not a landslide but a strong win.

 

[McTavish]

Something about right of centre politics. Lie blatantly. Get proved that you have lied blatantly. Your support STILL believes you. Right of centre support hates being seen to be wrong, or taken in/mugged by bullshit.

I don't think that's just true of right of centre. It is true of any group of people who have deep seated opinions that move from the objective to the subjective. Try telling a Corbynite (or indeed an actual Corbyn) that the Labour Party had significant problems with anti-semitic members.

 

[daveinprague]

You really do not help. I am right of centre (surprise, surprise) but I think Trump is really worthy of the term cxxt. I want to see him shown to lose this election as I want to see him humiliated. That will not be able to be done if he gets a second term and leaves the Whitehouse undefeated.

But you carry on stereotyping.

How many of Johnsons proven lies do you still believe?

 

[Lenny Rider]

this election is going to make for a great film one day

If it was cast tomorrow would they go with the SNL duo of Alec Baldwin and Jim Carrey?

Can't really see Pacino playing Trump or Daniel Day Lewis coming out of retirement for Biden.