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symyjym

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Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
Thousands of years ago, most tribes would fight other nearby tribes to the death, despite the fact that they were the same race - so that wasn't even racism, that was tribalism. Can you not see how far humans have come in that time?

Yes we certainly have come a long way. We can arrange gang fights on Whatapp now.
 




Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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I watched Tommy Robinson speaking at the Oxford Union on Youtube the other day and he gives a good run down of how it is. He has always been portrayed as the bad guy but living in Luton it's like a blueprint town for Sharia.

The students listened, unlike on here by most.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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I watched Tommy Robinson speaking at the Oxford Union on Youtube the other day and he gives a good run down of how it is. He has always been portrayed as the bad guy but living in Luton it's like a blueprint town for Sharia.

He's portrayed as a bad guy because he is; it really is this simple. He has a number of criminal convictions for a variety of crimes such as violence, financial fraud and passport violations as well as deportations.
 




symyjym

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Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
The students listened, unlike on here by most.

Yep, he knows his stuff, and he has all the information on the Jihadist preachers who have had time in certain named mosques and when. They have been literally living, being arrested and joining ISIS from his street. The Stacey Dooley documentary showed Luton for what it is if people have problem with Tommy Robinson though.
 




sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
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town full of eejits
Thousands of years ago, most tribes would fight other nearby tribes to the death, despite the fact that they were the same race - so that wasn't even racism, that was tribalism. Can you not see how far humans have come in that time?
thousands of years ago there was no penicillin , no tv , no internet and no football....no hand grenades , no landmines , no ied's , no suicide bombers ....oooh yeah ....we've come a long way baby....!!!
 








symyjym

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Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
He's portrayed as a bad guy because he is; it really is this simple. He has a number of criminal convictions for a variety of crimes such as violence, financial fraud and passport violations as well as deportations.

He is no angel and he's a cheeky ****er but you have to take into account the enviroment that he has lived in and what he has witnessed too. Surely you don't want to dispute what has happened to Luton?
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
He is no angel and he's a cheeky ****er but you have to take into account the enviroment that he has lived in and what he has witnessed too. Surely you don't want to dispute what has happened to Luton?

he can't dispute it...he hasn't got a clue...i don't think he gets out much
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Bore off, for providing a simple explanation for why Tommy Robinson's vast array of criminal convictions make him a bad guy?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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He is no angel and he's a cheeky ****er but you have to take into account the enviroment that he has lived in and what he has witnessed too.

What did he witness which made him commit mortgage fraud? What did he witness which made him enter the US on a friends passport? What did he witness which made him get involved in numerous fights at football matches? What did he witness which made him headbut a friend and do time? I'm genuinely interested.

He's a clown with anger issues at best.
 


Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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What did he witness which made him commit mortgage fraud? What did he witness which made him enter the US on a friends passport? What did he witness which made him get involved in numerous fights at football matches? What did he witness which made him headbut a friend and do time? I'm genuinely interested.

He's a clown with anger issues at best.

You are correct, he is certainly no angel, went about it the wrong way to get heard, but would people have listened. Has the authorities finally taken notice of what he was saying years before they actually acted on it?, did the authorities hound him and take the sides of others, an example being assaults on him (one filmed on C4) and no convictions.
Has he highlighted groomings, has he spoken out against radical preachers, has he killed anyone?
Perhaps he is no angel, he is certainly a lot better than those that ignored him, and those that carried out the atrocities in Manchester, Lee Rigby, Charlette Downes, Rotherham, Rochdale, Oldham etc.
The "clowns" are those that ignored, but finally woke up.
 






symyjym

Banned
Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
What did he witness which made him commit mortgage fraud? What did he witness which made him enter the US on a friends passport? What did he witness which made him get involved in numerous fights at football matches? What did he witness which made him headbut a friend and do time? I'm genuinely interested.

He's a clown with anger issues at best.

And you are Angela Merkel.
 


daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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Prague, Czech Republic
Projection at its best.

Ask his partner

'Convicted on 18 April 2005 for a horrific ultra-violent assault upon his partner Jenna Vowles. A police officer tried to shield Jenna from Lennon's brutal punches and kicks, and himself got kicked in the head.'
 
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Megazone

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Jan 28, 2015
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Northern Hemisphere.
What did he witness which made him commit mortgage fraud? What did he witness which made him enter the US on a friends passport? What did he witness which made him get involved in numerous fights at football matches? What did he witness which made him headbut a friend and do time? I'm genuinely interested.

He's a clown with anger issues at best.


What are your thoughts on Nelson Mandela pleading guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station?

Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.

Considering his 'political angle' was heard, do you not think the same should apply to others like T. Robinson?
 


daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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Prague, Czech Republic
Dear lord. Robinson in the same sentence as Mandela.
Thats it for me.

Night..

..and incidentally, the ANC didnt bomb the railway station in Johanesburg. Youre making stuff up.
 
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