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2017/18 NSC player ratings collated



Hammer15

New member
Apr 20, 2016
272
Montclair, NJ
I did threaten to do this last year but didn't have nearly enough time. However work is very quiet now, so...

BEHOLD, THE MIGHTY COLLATED GOOGLE SHEET OF NSC'S PLAYER RATINGS

So yeah, as and when I get time I'll try and stick your player ratings in here. I'll put the first 20 submissions in for each match.

1) All scores will be rounded to half-marks between 0 and 10
2) Where people say 'that's how I saw it too, but Propper got a 7 instead of an 8 for me' I'll probably include that as a separate line of ratings
3) If people say 'everyone got a 6' I won't include that
4) Might make up some more rules as I go along.

Not a perfect system - poor Jamie Murphy's score gets dragged down by just three people rating his couple of minutes as a sub at Watford, so I might figure out a way to make that more fair.

Unsurprisingly after five games, Lewis Dunk is head and shoulders above the rest with an average score of 7.72. Solly March in second with 7.15 and Shane Duffy in third with 6.83.
 




Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
I did threaten to do this last year but didn't have nearly enough time. However work is very quiet now, so...

BEHOLD, THE MIGHTY COLLATED GOOGLE SHEET OF NSC'S PLAYER RATINGS

So yeah, as and when I get time I'll try and stick your player ratings in here. I'll put the first 20 submissions in for each match.

1) All scores will be rounded to half-marks between 0 and 10
2) Where people say 'that's how I saw it too, but Propper got a 7 instead of an 8 for me' I'll probably include that as a separate line of ratings
3) If people say 'everyone got a 6' I won't include that
4) Might make up some more rules as I go along.

Not a perfect system - poor Jamie Murphy's score gets dragged down by just three people rating his couple of minutes as a sub at Watford, so I might figure out a way to make that more fair.

Unsurprisingly after five games, Lewis Dunk is head and shoulders above the rest with an average score of 7.72. Solly March in second with 7.15 and Shane Duffy in third with 6.83.

Perhaps don't include a sub appearance if less than say 5 people have bothered to rate them?
 












Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,273
Withdean area
Many thanks for producing that.

Interesting to note that:

1. Hemed and Murray have got poor ratings, on a par with the much slagged-off Rosenoir and Suttner, despite getting little service and having to play the lone striker role against PL quality defences on their own.

2. Izquierdo got 6.8 for his nine minute cameo against Watford, the highlight of which was a shot off target.
 


AZ Gull

@SeagullsAcademy @seagullsacademy.bsky.social
Oct 14, 2003
13,092
Chandler, AZ
I did threaten to do this last year but didn't have nearly enough time. However work is very quiet now, so...

BEHOLD, THE MIGHTY COLLATED GOOGLE SHEET OF NSC'S PLAYER RATINGS

So yeah, as and when I get time I'll try and stick your player ratings in here. I'll put the first 20 submissions in for each match.

1) All scores will be rounded to half-marks between 0 and 10
2) Where people say 'that's how I saw it too, but Propper got a 7 instead of an 8 for me' I'll probably include that as a separate line of ratings
3) If people say 'everyone got a 6' I won't include that
4) Might make up some more rules as I go along.

Not a perfect system - poor Jamie Murphy's score gets dragged down by just three people rating his couple of minutes as a sub at Watford, so I might figure out a way to make that more fair.

Unsurprisingly after five games, Lewis Dunk is head and shoulders above the rest with an average score of 7.72. Solly March in second with 7.15 and Shane Duffy in third with 6.83.

:clap2:
 




Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,827
Uffern
Unsurprisingly after five games, Lewis Dunk is head and shoulders above the rest with an average score of 7.72. Solly March in second with 7.15 and Shane Duffy in third with 6.83.

What is more surprising is the player that the press have been praising the most (and who made the European team of the week) is not included in the top four players, according to NSC.

Hemed's is hard done by - he's worked his socks off, mainly on his own against PL defences, and scored one fine goal. He's rated behind Izquierdo, who didn't touch the ball in a 25-minute appearance, one of his two cameos.
 


maltaseagull

Well-known member
Feb 25, 2009
13,361
Zabbar- Malta
What is more surprising is the player that the press have been praising the most (and who made the European team of the week) is not included in the top four players, according to NSC.

Hemed's is hard done by - he's worked his socks off, mainly on his own against PL defences, and scored one fine goal. He's rated behind Izquierdo, who didn't touch the ball in a 25-minute appearance, one of his two cameos.

Who was it?
 






Lurker

62 years and counting ...
Mar 8, 2010
416
West Midlands
Top work that man!!

In an ideal world it would probably give a more accurate picture of the average ratings if the sample was bigger than just the first 20 scores, but I appreciate your available time is going to be an issue so don't take that as a formal request!

Well done sir!
 












studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,227
On the Border
I did threaten to do this last year but didn't have nearly enough time. However work is very quiet now, so...




Not a perfect system

Unsurprisingly after five games, Lewis Dunk is head and shoulders above the rest with an average score of 7.72. Solly March in second with 7.15 and Shane Duffy in third with 6.83.


Great stuff, and as you say not perfect.

I don't want to spoil the fun, but is the average score not just an average of an average. I know you have stated you will take the 1st 20 posters ratings for each game, but especially for substitute appearances, if you accept a score where 5 only score, this could unduly move their average.

If you are taking the 1st 20 posters ratings, I would only include subs when they are rated in all the 20 posters that you use.

Only a suggestion, and its just a bit of fun really, and will still give an indication of the better players over the season as they will have played the most games
 


Hammer15

New member
Apr 20, 2016
272
Montclair, NJ
Great stuff, and as you say not perfect.

I don't want to spoil the fun, but is the average score not just an average of an average. I know you have stated you will take the 1st 20 posters ratings for each game, but especially for substitute appearances, if you accept a score where 5 only score, this could unduly move their average.

If you are taking the 1st 20 posters ratings, I would only include subs when they are rated in all the 20 posters that you use.

Only a suggestion, and its just a bit of fun really, and will still give an indication of the better players over the season as they will have played the most games

Point very much taken and I might up the 'sub rating' threshold a bit more. And as for the 'average of average' thing, I get that it's not a 'true' average but the noise on this would get smoothed out pretty reasonably over a 38-game season. (Not doing cup games btw)

EDIT - changed the minimum number of ratings to 10 to generate an average. Short-term result of this is Izquierdo has a preposterous 6.80 average right now but like I say, this is noise that will be levelled out before too long.
 
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Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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I don't often post in the player ratings thread but I might now this is going (if I remember). Hemed and Gross deserve far higher IMO.
 


Hammer15

New member
Apr 20, 2016
272
Montclair, NJ
Top work that man!!

In an ideal world it would probably give a more accurate picture of the average ratings if the sample was bigger than just the first 20 scores, but I appreciate your available time is going to be an issue so don't take that as a formal request!

Well done sir!

No worries! Yeah, sadly not enough hours in the day so I have to draw the line somewhere.
 


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