[Music] 1970/80's Music Question

[Lenny Rider]

Harty Junior came up with an interesting one this morning in the office, as Paul Weller is generally known as 'The Modfather', were the Jam Mods?

 

[Comrade Sam]

Yes!

 

[mr sheen]

Yes

 

[Trevor]

yes

 

[SAC]

Yes.

 

[MattBackHome]

No. I mean, Yes.

 

[zefarelly]

I can see this thread is going to run and run.

I believe they were inclined to modernism.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Get your point boys but didn't they come out at the same time as punk in 76/77 when there was no Mod movement at that time?

Did they effectively restart it then?

 

[Comrade Sam]

Them and Quadrophenia!
Converted me in 1980 and still a Mod today!

 

[Comrade Sam]

Mods Mayday LP in '79 shows where the Mod movement was at after a slow rebirth.

 

[Perry Milkins]

There was a documentary on Weller and the Jam on Sky Arts recently. Within he confirms he steered the jam as a Mod Revival Group.

 

[jakarta]

Always found the second time around Mod movement a bit sad. Why couldn't they have thought of something new?

Have to admit at the time I did admire the Rocker style and wore an open face crash helmet and goggles when riding my Norton...

 

[Is it PotG?]

No real need to pigeon-hole them.

As Weller has proved since in many guises, he goes wherever the fancy takes him.

 

[Comrade Sam]

No real need to pigeon-hole them.

As Weller has proved since in many guises, he goes wherever the fancy takes him.

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Always a Mod and a Socialist though!

 

[zefarelly]

THere's no doubt the Jam were highest profile, and arguably led the way, but as Sam says, the Mods Mayday album shows there were plenty of other RnB bands about who were similarly inclined stylewise. To a lesser extent it never completely went away, just went underground, mod to boot boy, skinheads to suedheads and a soul and scootering fraternity, particularly in the north of England. . the mod revival died by 83, scooterists kept scootering as a virtually mod free subculture through the 80's, it wasn't until the mid 90's they became popular again fuelled by britpop . . . What most people consider 'mod' these days is laughable, but thats another story.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Always a Mod and a Socialist though!

I agree to a point, although his more recent interviews in magazines (or even the Style Council documentary) he seemed a bit miffed with Red Wedge being hijacked by contemporary leftie politicians with only self-interest at heart.

 

[Comrade Sam]

Also as Mods Mayday shows, whilst the Mod revival became massive - no Mod band came close to kissing Weller's socks. The 2-tone and new Wave acts also helped spread the Mod look, but the Merton Parkers, Secret Affair, Nine Bellow Zero and the rest were all pretty naff.

 

[zefarelly]

I agree to a point, although his more recent interviews in magazines (or even the Style Council documentary) he seemed a bit miffed with Red Wedge being hijacked by contemporary leftie politicians with only self-interest at heart.

He was, and who can blame him.

 

[Comrade Sam]

I agree to a point, although his more recent interviews in magazines (or even the Style Council documentary) he seemed a bit miffed with Red Wedge being hijacked by contemporary leftie politicians with only self-interest at heart.

Most socialists can't stand shallow careerist politicians. He was disillusioned the Labour Party not with his belief in Socialism. And with anyone with a political conviction, his faith and active support has fluctuated over the last 40 years.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

I could never understand how he got the title Modfather, as he is a second generation mod. If anyone deserves the title it’s probably someone like Pete Townsend