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15,500 Season Tickets at Falmer



Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,895
Guiseley
exactly, an im quite confident being middle of summer (when about 15% of the population is on holiday at any time), anyone wanting a ticket for the first game at Falmer will get one.

NO WAY! I know loads of people who don't give a sh!t about the albion who want to go to the first game.
 




Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,895
Guiseley
I can't/won't commit to every game either; like the other STH's around me I go when work, domestic etc commitments allow, otherwise the seat is unused. This season I think I managed 9 league games.

Can't you give the ticket away though? My brother only used his 3 times this season, but his seat was only empty once or twice.
 












portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
17,779
This is slowly starting to look like the panic that took over when Cardiff tickets went on sale with people scaremongering that tickets would be sold out in a day. We all know we couldn't even fill our allocation.

I will be staggered but happy if we sell out of season tickets and people who wanted one can't get one. It's not gonna happen, no way will the demand to part with £400 plus be that great,

Utterly different circumstances. And a lot smaller capacity at Falmer. No point comparing the two.
 


portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
17,779
Indeed. I have had four or five people (at least one year before completion) express interest in coming along and none of them support Brighton.

That's why you and I can't risk being in with the Johnnys when the first tickets go on sale. You might not get one. Hence best thing to do, as a non STH, is become a STH for the 1st season at least when they're made available to all. And even that's going to be a scrabble I reckon, but a race I know I can win because I'm prepared to do what floaters won't e.g. ensure I get there first before STHs are all sold out for Falmer and the only tickets left after that are the measely 7000+ "on the days". The latter will be one hell of a scramble and die-hards like me may well miss out in that "race" because being a STH for 10 out of the last 13 seasons doesn't count on the club database. Only current STHs. I would parachute into the ground if I didn't get a ticket for that first game - the thought of dozens of londoners (probably asking who the team in blue and white are) in my place would be intolerable. Club needs to make sure it doesn't allow this to happen in terms of a pecking order. But I don't trust them, do you? Past experience tells me they make a right royal cock-up of ticket sales and manage to piss every category of fan off. Too many examples to cite.
 




Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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Im sure you'll get loads cause the Withdeans abit.. well yeah, but your away support is quality :smile: Butttt i cant see you selling 15500. Saints sell about 12000 season tickets which i imagine is similar to what you will sell because we usually have exelent home support, which i think you will have when falmer comes. but i think if you go up to the championship, which isn't that unlikely, then you will sell nearer that target. if not i think the 12000 mark is a bit more realistic :smile: :falmer:


Hmmm, you may be right. I'm still not sure what will happen. On the one hand Saints are a realistic comparison at this level, on the other there is the unknown factor: the whole Falmer thing is causing such excitement because it's been years since we've had a place we can call our own. Twelve years in the arse end of Kent or at the most Noddy stadium in the entire Football League (paying prices that would shock your average Championship supporter) have turned the new stadium into such a major event for us, far more so than most other clubs who've moved stadiums. I can think of few clubs for whom a new stadium would be such a big thing. Sure, I'm certain the likes of Saints, Stoke, Cardiff, Northampton etc were pleased when they moved, but they all did it straight from their old grounds and planned it properly. None of them ended up playing at some other club's hovel 70 miles away in the meantime. It's a celebration of survival for us, not just a new money making opportunity and a shiny megastore.

I also think Saints could probably have more season ticket holders but there's little need at the moment for people to buy them. Crowds in League One are such that they know they can safely turn up on the day and get a seat, without having to shell out for a season ticket.

I've always thought Reading are a fairly reasonable model for us at this stage. They get crowds of, what, 18,000 these days, with the occasional sell out. I guess they probably have 10,000 season ticket holders or so. The whole argument that Falmer is too small is totally pointless at the moment- lets see what happens when the initial novelty wears off and a few poor performances on the pitch dampen the enthusiasm. If we're still selling out even then, I will revise my opinion, but for now I think the club have it just about spot on.
 




Jul 5, 2003
6,776
Bristol
Average over 20K?
Southampton 20,982, Charlton 17,407. We'd be doing VERY well if we 'outaveraged' two former Premier League teams.
 






Can't you give the ticket away though? My brother only used his 3 times this season, but his seat was only empty once or twice.

Sometimes but I normally don't make a decision about going until the day before or morning of the game. Giving the ticket away doesn't actually benefit the club in any tangible way either.
 


Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
24,895
Guiseley
Sometimes but I normally don't make a decision about going until the day before or morning of the game. Giving the ticket away doesn't actually benefit the club in any tangible way either.

I disagree. There may be 500 people in the same position, if none of them gave their tickets away the club would probably sell 250 less programmes and the atmosphere would be worse, thus affecting the performance of the team and the enjoyment of others there. This in turn could affect their decision on whether or not to come to another game. At Falmer there will also be other sales to consider, particularly beer.
 




Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
46,762
at home
At Falmer there will also be other sales to consider, particularly beer.

That is the one thing I am unconvinced about.

historically people like to be away from the game as soon as possible ( even at Withdean, people leave their seats 10 minutes before the final whistle to get to busses etc)

look at Wembley the other night....within 5 minutes of the wander around and clap at players, the place was deserted.
 


surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,163
Bevendean
That is the one thing I am unconvinced about.

historically people like to be away from the game as soon as possible ( even at Withdean, people leave their seats 10 minutes before the final whistle to get to busses etc)

look at Wembley the other night....within 5 minutes of the wander around and clap at players, the place was deserted.

Could still buy a beer before the game / half time. Im sure if there was also a wait to get onto the train/bus people may have a pint or two after then go home rather than stand outside waiting
 


Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,895
Guiseley
That is the one thing I am unconvinced about.

historically people like to be away from the game as soon as possible ( even at Withdean, people leave their seats 10 minutes before the final whistle to get to busses etc)

look at Wembley the other night....within 5 minutes of the wander around and clap at players, the place was deserted.

I wasn't talking about after the match. I was talking about before and at half time.

Very rough calculation:

Say there are 15,500 season ticket holders who on average can make 20 games a season (most going to all, some hardly going to any).

That's 3 x 15,500 = 46,500 off the attendances over the season if they can't be bothered to give their ticket away.

Say on average these 46,500 people have 1 beer, half of them have a burger, half of them get a pragramme, 5% of them buy a scarf and 0.5% of them get a shirt.

Beer 46,500 x £4 (though i'd love it to be less) = £186,000
Programmes 23,250 x £4 = £93,000
Burgers 23,250 x £4 = £93,000
Scarves = 2,325 x £10 = £23,250
Shirts = 233 x £45 = £10,485


Total: £405,735 per season that the club could make if people can be arsed to give their spare ticket away.
 


surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,163
Bevendean
On another slightly o/t note does anyone know if the South Stand (away end) can be segragated and have home fans in there - for instance if we play Hartlepool/Carslile who will not bring full allocation.
 




Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,895
Guiseley
On another slightly o/t note does anyone know if the South Stand (away end) can be segragated and have home fans in there - for instance if we play Hartlepool/Carslile who will not bring full allocation.

:eek: The day we need more that 20,000 seats in the home end for a match against Carlisle will be a day to behold.
 


crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
14,062
Lyme Regis
The fact this thread has run and run and has such differing views shows the guess work in terms of finding the correct capacity for Falmer. The club has to balance between creating the right stadium in terms of it not looking dserted and half full against maximising revenue and getting as many people in as possible.

Personally I think 22,000 is enough, I don't want us to have a 30,000 stadium that will likely after the initial novelty factor has worn off will be less than half full.
 


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