[Albion] £14.95 to a Brighton foodbank instead - Monday PPV vs. West Brom.

[Herr Tubthumper]

Nobody is being forced to pay this PPV.

Phew. I was starting to worry what might happen when KO approaches and I haven’t paid up.

 

[drew]

Yep.

I've always wondered about those people who pay over a grand for a ST at Arsenal and wondered how they could ever begin to justify that to themselves. This situation has been a bit of an eye-opener for me, it's basically a live demonstration of the famous frogs in hot water experiment. If you place frogs in hot water they'll jump out immediately, if you place them in cool water and slowly heat it up they won't realise and will be boiled alive.

Demand every penny someone has and they'll tell you to f*ck off, ask a football fan for more and more money at every opportunity and they'll continue to fork it over for years to come.

What a bizarre analogy.

We have been offered the option to watch a game we wouldn't otherwise be able to see. In the normal course of a season, the only way of legitimately watching this game would be to go.

You talk of Arsenal STs, well you could ask why does someone pay to sit in the West Upper when they can watch the same game from North stand for a cheaper price, or why pay for 1901 membership when you can pay less to sit in the West Upper!!!

 

[drew]

Phew. I was starting to worry what might happen when KO approaches and I haven’t paid up.

I think each club were going to hold a ballot and the winner would get a visit from the heavy mob.

 

[Whitechapel]

What a bizarre analogy.

We have been offered the option to watch a game we wouldn't otherwise be able to see. In the normal course of a season, the only way of legitimately watching this game would be to go.

You talk of Arsenal STs, well you could ask why does someone pay to sit in the West Upper when they can watch the same game from North stand for a cheaper price, or why pay for 1901 membership when you can pay less to sit in the West Upper!!!

No surprise who's first to reply, It's Mr.Angry-that-people-are-donating-to-foodbanks. Gosh, imagine my shock.

The analogy is because people like you see no problem with Sky/BT/The PL trying to squeeze every single penny out of fans. If you can't see that their entire business plan has always been 'be offered an inch, take a mile' and can't guess at what's going to happen going forward then you're proving my analogy correct. If people were told they could watch every Brighton game on TV for £350 at the start of the season on top of their Sky & BT subscriptions people would have complained, but now it's 'only' £15 a game it's fine. If the PPV stays (which it will) then the price will raise slowly but surely - the same was ticket & subscription prices do currently.

I eagerly await you handpicking one sentance, purposfully taking it the wrong way and then making a terrible strawman argument to defeat.

 

[dazzer6666]

No surprise who's first to reply, It's Mr.Angry-that-people-are-donating-to-foodbanks. Gosh, imagine my shock.

The analogy is because people like you see no problem with Sky/BT/The PL trying to squeeze every single penny out of fans. If you can't see that their entire business plan has always been 'be offered an inch, take a mile' and can't guess at what's going to happen going forward then you're proving my analogy correct. If people were told they could watch every Brighton game on TV for £350 at the start of the season on top of their Sky & BT subscriptions people would have complained, but now it's 'only' £15 a game it's fine. If the PPV stays (which it will) then the price will raise slowly but surely - the same was ticket & subscription prices do currently.

I eagerly await you handpicking one sentance, purposfully taking it the wrong way and then making a terrible strawman argument to defeat.

If it’s been overpriced (not sure there’s much debate necessary there tbf), demand will be low as people (‘people like you’?) won’t pay it. If some decide that it’s still within their price range then let them pay it........it’s no different than any other commodity. If there is something you can do without, and it costs too much, then don’t buy it - simple really.

Sky won’t look to overly push ppv at all - their whole business model is based on subscriptions. They won’t jeopardise that - ppv far more likely to be something the EPL/clubs do themselves for games not on, or clashing with, games on Sky.

 

[portlock seagull]

It's quite depressing seeing people say they will pay for it. It'll just encourage the broadcasters to keep whacking up the price (and show games at a ridiculous kick off time).

Even Barber has said the price is silly.

Don't do it

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Yep, divided we’re conquered. Too many sheep in football to feed the wolves. Annoying isn’t it? ****ing morons, same types who cross picket lines. All for one. And all for one.

 

[Official Old Man]

What a bizarre analogy.

We have been offered the option to watch a game we wouldn't otherwise be able to see. In the normal course of a season, the only way of legitimately watching this game would be to go.

You talk of Arsenal STs, well you could ask why does someone pay to sit in the West Upper when they can watch the same game from North stand for a cheaper price, or why pay for 1901 membership when you can pay less to sit in the West Upper!!!

I watched this afternoons PPV game via a stream. Funny thing was the game was in English but at half time it went to god knows what. Unless Sky/BT have changed, all they are feeding into the PPV channel is the Premier League English commentary game that is fed all around the world for broadcasters to pick up. So how much does it cost to put this feed on to a Sky/BT channel, very little I'd have thought. £5 and many 1000's would pay, £9.99 and you'd get the die hards and a few more. £14.95. I'm out.

 

[portlock seagull]

How many people visiting food banks have the latest iphone, a massive TV on their living room wall, and the very latest trainers? Just asking.

Don’t know. Maybe you could do a survey after you’ve popped down to contribute something to someone less fortunate than yourself? Let us know the results please.

 

[portlock seagull]

Yep.

I've always wondered about those people who pay over a grand for a ST at Arsenal and wondered how they could ever begin to justify that to themselves. This situation has been a bit of an eye-opener for me, it's basically a live demonstration of the famous frogs in hot water experiment. If you place frogs in hot water they'll jump out immediately, if you place them in cool water and slowly heat it up they won't realise and will be boiled alive.

Demand every penny someone has and they'll tell you to f*ck off, ask a football fan for more and more money at every opportunity and they'll continue to fork it over for years to come.

Love this analogy, even more because Drew (predictably) doesn’t get it! The old toad...

 

[Wozza]

There’s a comparison to be made here with the introduction of BT Sport.

We were told it would be a good thing for fans. More live games on TV, right? A price war?

Pah! It led to fans having subscribe to both Sky Sports AND BT Sport to catch available live Premier League matches (Yes, I know Drew, you don’t HAVE to!). Plus we completely lost free-to-air European matches.

So more consumer ‘choice’ for the English football fan actually meant more expense and fewer free matches. Great.

After BT Sport, the next way of milking money from football fans is via PPV.

If TV companies think they can get away with £15 matches (and while there's no atmosphere/fake crowd sound!), you can guarantee they’ll ramp those up over coming seasons, and dial-back the subscription model.

Smaller Premier League clubs like Brighton can only suffer from that. Football fans will suffer from that.

For that reason, I won’t be paying to watch Albion v Albion and I’ve donated to a foodbank.

But you do you.

 

[drew]

Love this analogy, even more because Drew (predictably) doesn’t get it! The old toad...

Wondered when you'd pipe up.

I get the analogy but described it as bizarre because the frog doesn't know he's being slowly boiled alive whereas with the PPV, I know exactly what I've paid for and what extra is available. You might recall at the start the amount of people moaning that they were being asked to pay twice for the same thing whereas some of us knew that wasn't the case. You might not like PPV, you might the price, that's fine, but stop whinging about those of us that have decided to pay.

 

[swindonseagull]

or a dodgy stream......

Not all streams are dodgy quality......

 

[drew]

There’s a comparison to be made here with the introduction of BT Sport.

We were told it would be a good thing for fans. More live games on TV, right? A price war?

Pah! It led to fans having subscribe to both Sky Sports AND BT Sport to catch available live Premier League matches (Yes, I know Drew, you don’t HAVE to!). Plus we completely lost free-to-air European matches.

So more consumer ‘choice’ for the English football fan actually meant more expense and fewer free matches. Great.

After BT Sport, the next way of milking money from football fans is via PPV.

If TV companies think they can get away with £15 matches (and while there's no atmosphere/fake crowd sound!), you can guarantee they’ll ramp those up over coming seasons, and dial-back the subscription model.

Smaller Premier League clubs like Brighton can only suffer from that. Football fans will suffer from that.

For that reason, I won’t be paying to watch Albion v Albion and I’ve donated to a foodbank.

But you do you.

Assume that's a typo!

You also forgot Amazon Prime.

 

[Wozza]

Assume that's a typo!

You assume wrong.

 

[drew]

You assume wrong.

We live and learn!

 

[portlock seagull]

Wondered when you'd pipe up.

I get the analogy but described it as bizarre because the frog doesn't know he's being slowly boiled alive whereas with the PPV, I know exactly what I've paid for and what extra is available. You might recall at the start the amount of people moaning that they were being asked to pay twice for the same thing whereas some of us knew that wasn't the case. You might not like PPV, you might the price, that's fine, but stop whinging about those of us that have decided to pay.

It’s you whose on their own here. Plenty of fools parted with their money besides. Go fill your boots. Sorry, their boots.

 

[dazzer6666]

Not all streams are dodgy quality......

No, but they are still dodgy.....[emoji23][emoji23]

 

[drew]

It’s you whose on their own here. Plenty of fools parted with their money besides. Go fill your boots. Sorry, their boots.

Should be 'who's', not 'whose'!

As for tools parting with their money, not dissimilar to someone paying a fine for a toll crossing when perhaps they had made a genuine mistake and only had to appeal!!!

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

So many sanctimonious posters on here. If people want to pay to watch their team play, it’s up to them.

 

[LamieRobertson]

It’s you whose on their own here. Plenty of fools parted with their money besides. Go fill your boots. Sorry, their boots.

He’s not on his own at all