[Albion] 12 foreign players per Premier League squad post-Brexit

[studio150]

I think that most on NSC would agree that the Championship was far more entertaining anyway, so win-win all round. We stay in the (competitive) PL with all the fun and games of the Championship.

The quality of football may have improved (in some ways) but do you seriously think that Brighton v. Palace is more exciting and more enjoyable than it was back in the 70s and 80s?
Good luck with that one.......................

17 March 2013 Ulloa with 2 and THAT free kick from Lopez, would that have happened with a clampdown on overseas players.

Was that more exciting than seeing Peter O'Sullivan score the winner on the long grass of the Goldstone 17 August 1974, yes it was.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

A lot of the comments on here seem to be as if the posters are 'neutral' fans watching all the games from their armchair. If so then yeah, a drop in the overall quality would be an issue. Same as if the actors in your favourite programme became sub-standard. But this is a sport. People go/watch for the competitiveness and excitement sport brings.

If this 'drop' in quality (which there is no proof will happen) sees a drop in income, a drop in wages, a drop in fees? So what. The game in this country is massive enough and the MEGA clubs are massive enough that the 'sell' of the PL will still remain.

However, from the point of view of fans, going to the game, shouting for your team to win, a little drop in quality matched off with an increase in 'homegrown' players wouldn't effect the viewing. If anything having more homegrown players, a knowledge that your team are always pushing young talent or searching for talent further down the leagues and adding more 'novelty' to the international superstars would make it more fun.

The fact that fans sing that dreary "he's one of our own" any time they have a local guy plays shows how uncommon it's getting.

And, the logic that the PL would become another SPL? Seriously? Come on.

12 is still plenty enough to keep the quality in the league. Quite comfortably in fact.

 

[studio150]

How does that work then, are you saying that English teams in the past which contained very few (if any) foreign players shouldn't have had the success they did in European competition because they didn't contain enough foreign players at the time?

You are not looking at like for like, when English teams were successful in Europe all teams had the same requirements on foreign players. Going forward if the lower quota was adopted, all other competitors in European competition would be free to use more players from the EU than English teams.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

17 March 2013 Ulloa with 2 and THAT free kick from Lopez, would that have happened with a clampdown on overseas players.

I make it we only had 11 or so foreigners who played that season.

So yeah. It would have.

 

[studio150]

I make it we only had 11 or so foreigners who played that season.

So yeah. It would have.

But would it, as with the FA's move combined with the unfriendly environment post Brexit, would the players have wanted to come and play here

 

[Guy Fawkes]

You are not looking at like for like, when English teams were successful in Europe all teams had the same requirements on foreign players. Going forward if the lower quota was adopted, all other competitors in European competition would be free to use more players from the EU than English teams.

So wouldn't the teams limited to 12 in this country go for the best quality possible, rather than simply numbers - They could have a starting XI and a sub and still comply with the limit

 

[A1X]

It might give young English players a chance but I would imagine this is also bad news for clubs like us or Bournemouth as young English talent is going to be creamed off by the top 6 and the quality of our own squad will dip as a result. I'd imagine Dunk would be top of many shopping lists, even the likes of March or Stephens could start to look appealing.

 

[GT49er]

17 March 2013 Ulloa with 2 and THAT free kick from Lopez, would that have happened with a clampdown on overseas players.

Was that more exciting than seeing Peter O'Sullivan score the winner on the long grass of the Goldstone 17 August 1974, yes it was.

 

[GT49er]

But would it, as with the FA's move combined with the unfriendly environment post Brexit, would the players have wanted to come and play here

Maybe it's time to merge this thread with the B***** thread where most people can ignore it. Limiting clubs to 12 foreign players is neither a better or worse idea depending on B*****. Wouldn't diminish the interest in football at all, bring it on.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

17 March 2013 Ulloa with 2 and THAT free kick from Lopez, would that have happened with a clampdown on overseas players.

Was that more exciting than seeing Peter O'Sullivan score the winner on the long grass of the Goldstone 17 August 1974, yes it was.

Ian Mellor, surely?

 

[studio150]

Ian Mellor, surely?

Correct, my memory failing me, could have bet the house on it being a daisy cutter from O'Sullivan into the South Stand goal

 

[ManOfSussex]

Like it or not, The Premier League has been one the most successful financial and cultural exports as a product this country has produced in the last 25 years. Where I lived in Africa, people had no affinity or in some cases any love lost for the old colonial power, but they loved The English Premier League. As well as the style of play/entertainment levels, a large part of it's appeal is the multi cultural, multi racial, cosmopolitan aspect to it. Globally it is a seriously positive ambassador for this country. A couple of months back when it was first reported in The Times, it stated that The Premier League wanted GBE's given to any foreign player offered a contract in a 25 in the future to maintain competitiveness against other European leagues. If clubs could sign players they currently wouldn't be able to from Africa, Asia etc - the global appeal would increase in my opinion and with saturation point reached with The UK TV market, the foreign one becomes ever more important. As The Times leader article on this report said yesterday, as well as negating the competitiveness of English clubs in The Champions League and Europa League against European rivals, it argues this doesn't reflect the 'Global Britain' claim well after the 'B' word.

I can see the arguments for and against, but leagues fall and rise - think of the status of Serie 'A' 25 years ago to now and the emergence of The Chinese Super League out of nowhere and the steady rise of The MLS.

Interesting times.

 

[chaileyjem]

I think that most on NSC would agree that the Championship was far more entertaining anyway, so win-win all round. We stay in the (competitive) PL with all the fun and games of the Championship.

The quality of football may have improved (in some ways) but do you seriously think that Brighton v. Palace is more exciting and more enjoyable than it was back in the 70s and 80s?
Good luck with that one.......................

its just different. The 0-0 firework fest was horrible. On the pitch and off the pitch.
Perversely the 3-2 at Selhurst in the spring was a great game even though we lost.
And both sets of fans left upbeat, realising that they were probably safe in the prem
The Cup game had its moments. Last minute winner. Whats not to like.
Compared to what i remember in 76/77/78 etc. And i'm really looking forward to Dec 4th.