The Large One
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Absolute rubbish.blockhseagull said:Still think Kuipers will leave, MM has made it clear he hasn't got a future here...
Absolute rubbish.blockhseagull said:Still think Kuipers will leave, MM has made it clear he hasn't got a future here...
The Large One said:Absolute rubbish.
So, looking at those 'facts', you have made the blind leap of saying MM pushed him out. Just brilliant. You're re-writing the facts to suit your own agenda.blockhseagull said:Look at the facts.... shoved out on loan, has now offered a contract to Sullivan so he joins Martin on the list. We do not need four keepers !!!
He has also gone on record as saying we can't afford two ( experienced) keepers... albeit last season i don't think that has changed.
The Large One said:So, looking at those 'facts', you have made the blind leap of saying MM pushed him out. Just brilliant. You're re-writing the facts to suit your own agenda.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, it was KUIPERS' choice to go out on loan. Got that? Michel Kuipers chose not to fight for his place. He would rather play first team football elsewhere than rot in the stiffs here.
The Large One said:I am certain Kuipers will leave. I am also not doubting that McGhee said we can't afford two keepers. Whether that statement is true or not is another issue.
I am jumping on the fact that you said McGhee 'shoved' him out, and that McGhee wants to see the back of him. Neither of those statements are true. Kuipers chose not to fight for his place here. McGhee would rather he stayed and challenged for his place.
Pavilionaire said:If I was a first XI player I'd be slightly concerned.
The day after the Falmer delay story we sign up 10 teenagers on pro contracts, most of whom haven't got anywhere near the first team.
If I was Guy Butters, Charlie Oatway, Paul Reid, Richard Carpenter, Gary Hart I'd be thinking the club are going to get rid of me regardless, because of wages.
As a fan I have mixed feeling. Even Man Utd great youth team that spawned Beckham, Butt, Gary Neville etc had some duds, but we seem to have sign up the youth side lock, stock and barrel.
It's an early call by the management, I hope they're right. Yet another indication we've got f*** all money though.
Pavilionaire said:If I was a first XI player I'd be slightly concerned.
The day after the Falmer delay story we sign up 10 teenagers on pro contracts, most of whom haven't got anywhere near the first team.
If I was Guy Butters, Charlie Oatway, Paul Reid, Richard Carpenter, Gary Hart I'd be thinking the club are going to get rid of me regardless, because of wages.
As a fan I have mixed feeling. Even Man Utd great youth team that spawned Beckham, Butt, Gary Neville etc had some duds, but we seem to have sign up the youth side lock, stock and barrel.
It's an early call by the management, I hope they're right. Yet another indication we've got f*** all money though.
Dies Irae said:If It was me, I would look to move:
Kuipers
Reid
Carpenter
hart
oatway ( although I assume he will go backstage)
carole
Chagneu
Hammond
Nicholas
Mccammon
Mcphee
robinson
Keep regulars
Butters
el abd
henderson
CKR
Frutie
Hinch
I would then try and sign Mcshane
with the youngsters as we have no money, that should hopefully slash the wage bill and keep us about mid table if we are lucky.
Those who think we will bounce straight back are deluded
Dies Irae said:I think carole would not want to play in the lower leagues ( divi 3 after all)
hammond I recon we would get some money for
Oatway is injury prone
reid is obviously not part of the great one's plans and I am not that enammered with his play
jakey unfortunately has not got it. I think we should get some dosh from aldershot for him
Shropshire Seagull said:Could this not be a step to protect losing a potentailly valuable asset (more than one too).
Lets just assume for the moment that we do have a very exceptional group of young players here. If we didn't have them on professional terms, couldn't they just walk into another club without us getting any fee? By putting them on contract, if we do have the next Beckham amongst them, we will get paid appropriately.
I'm thinking Theo Walcott scenario here, at 16 going to Arsenal for £££ millions.
Looks like a shrewd financial move by the club to me.
blockhseagull said:Hammond hasn't done enough for someone to come in and pay what he is probably worth, Charlie was hacked down, hardly injury prone
Dunno about Reid, in and out of the side but under contract so i doubt he is going anywhere either
jakey is short of confidence but also has two years left...loan him out
Dies Irae said:I agree about hammond, but I do think he is our only bankable asset at the moment...maybe 150k from Ipswich?
Charlie was injured to start with, came back, got injured, came back got crocked.......
Reid......maybe 50k to Oldham
jakey.......35k to Aldershot.
235k to the Falmer pot