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Stan Collymore: To make the Premier League the best scrap relegation and promotion



surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,162
Bevendean
Article in todays Mirror

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opi...p-relegation-and-promotion-article201025.html

To make the Premier League the best get Leeds and Newcastle back, get rid of small clubs and scrap relegation and promotion

The Premier League is considered by many to be the best league in the world but I think drastic reform is needed to keep it at the pinnacle.
With the UK’s punitive taxes, we are already starting to see many of the English top-flight’s best talent draining away to the continent.
Just this summer the likes of Ronaldo and Xabi Alonso quit for the La Liga in Spain, where they will earn considerably more money after tax.
And I would actually like to see the Premier League comprised solely of the 20-25 clubs who have been the biggest and most successful sides in modern history.
I think those teams should form the top-flight whether that be Leeds United in the third tier or Newcastle United in the second tier.
And there would be no promotion or relegation which would allow those teams to grow.
Then you would guarantee some of the world’s best derbies, like Sunderland v Newcastle, happening each season as well as other huge games like Leeds against Man United.
It would make a pleasant change from watching some of the smaller clubs in the Premier League in recent times like Reading, Wigan and Bolton.
Fans around the world want to see the huge games - not clashes involving clubs like Barnsley, Watford or Hull.
So I think it really is time that those clubs who have contributed the most over the last 100 years be the flag-bearers for a new Premier League with no promotion or relegation.
That would allow teams to attack without fear because no-one will be relegated.
And it will crucially enable the Premier League to go on to the next level if we are to compete with La Liga and Serie A in Italy.
The Football League would still function if you are a Wigan or a Notts County or a smaller club.
These sides would do what they have done for most of their existence which is play in a league where you have a better chance of winning something.
My main grievance is the reason why the likes of Wigan, Hull and Reading have got into the Premier League.
For the most part it is due to wealthy benefactors who have bought into them because they are cheap investments.
The likes of Reading and Hull are in a big catchment area with potential for the growth and benefactors know if they put in modest sums they could get them within touching distance of the Premier League and turn a huge profit in the value of the club.
So this isn’t a romantic story about clubs developing from within with a view to trying to go and win an FA Cup or title.
This is pure chance taking by people who have seen clubs as a method to get enhance their ego and earnings.
There is little precedent in other sports for the system of meritocracy if you look at the NFL.
They get billions in TV revenue and I think broadcasters would pay even more for the Premier League rights if they knew the biggest clubs and the marquee names would be involved.
There would derbies galore and repeats of famous historical clashes galore.
Most people with the of greatest respect do not tune in to watch Wigan against Hull - they tune in to watch Liverpool versus Chelsea.
So I think we should forget the 39th game and just have the top 25 clubs in the country playing 50 games.
I am salivating dreaming at the thought of it.

What a load of crap.
 




surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,162
Bevendean
A good reply to it

I've racked my brains for a gooh three hours and still cant work out what Mr Collymore WOULD be good at.

He was good at football.....but he didnt have the mental strength for it (HE WAS A BOTTLER). And ever since he quit, everything he's done has been rubbish. Rubbish presenter, rubbish actor, rubbish columnist, rubbish rapper (yeah you heard....he tried rapping). For christ sake Stan you were even rubbish at going into car parks late at night and watching strangers having it off!!!!

And yet every week you use a national newspaper to spread your rubbish in the faint hope that anyone in the world will take you seriously?! I properly pity you Stan. Very few people have your money, even fewer are as good a footballer as you were and I bet you've had it off with some right stunners. But I feel so sorry for you, because you've made absolutely nothing of your life.
 










Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
But I feel so sorry for you, because you've made absolutely nothing of your life.

I disagree.

His greatest achievement was slapping ulrika johnson about, somebody had to do it and Stanley Victor stepped up to the plate. I don't see how anyone can criticise him after that selfless act of public service.
 




ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,350
(North) Portslade
The comparison to the NFL is ridiculous. Its a completely different setup, and professional "football" over there doesn't have the history that ours has. It was basically invented in the mid-20th century to create a setup for fans to see the best players after they leave College, and the teams are regionalised based on where the fans are.
 




Gritt23

New member
Jul 7, 2003
14,902
Meopham, Kent.
Oh Stan, sometimes you make me laugh, but most of the time you are just a knob.
 




Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
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Jul 6, 2003
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The comparison to the NFL is ridiculous. Its a completely different setup, and professional "football" over there doesn't have the history that ours has. It was basically invented in the mid-20th century to create a setup for fans to see the best players after they leave College, and the teams are regionalised based on where the fans are.
And also, more importantly, there's no 'sign who you like' policy. Recruitment is strictly controlled via the Draft which is structured so that the worst teams get first pick. I can't see Man U agreeing to that. The NFL try and make all teams equal and try to ensure that success and failure are cyclic.

Plus there's only eight home games a season (unless you qualify for the play-offs) and no Cups! That helps keep the interest up.
 




surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,162
Bevendean
That article isn't actually real is it?

sadly yes it is

Appparantly the teams are:
Arsenal, Aston Villa, Blackburn, Burnley, Bolton, Chelsea, Derby, Everton, Ipswich, Liverpool, Leeds, Leicester, Middlesbrough, Man U, Man C, Newcastle, Forest, Portsmouth, Stoke, Sunderland, Sheff U, Sheff Wed, Tottenham, Wolves, West Brom.

(heard on talksport)
 


Bromley shrimp

New member
Aug 24, 2003
831
Beckenham, Kent
Talk for Talk Sake Stan you complete Bozo - A good commentator, well informed and passionate about the game IMO, but you're no Aristotle so stay well clear of the philosophising. PS Would he think differently if he hadn't only played or supported teams in the "elite" that he lists in his ramblings?
 


Silent Bob

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Dec 6, 2004
22,172
Blackburn, Burnley, Bolton, Portsmouth, Stoke
If you were doing this idea based on having the biggest clubs what the f*** are these doing there?
The likes of Derby, Ipswich, Wolves etc are quite well supported but not what you'd call big clubs either.
 




Yoda

English & European
Can someone tell me who he think's Hull's sugardaddy is?

I thought they got there from using the increased revenue from their new stadium. ???
 


withdeanwombat

Well-known member
Feb 17, 2005
8,731
Somersetshire
Dearodearodear.But didn't the Bolton chairman want just this,or a 2 division Premiership,whatever was necessary to keep NotloB afloat.
 


What an utter tool on so many levels it's hard to know where to begin. I can only assume that he is fishing for attention this this turgid heap of festering drivel.

And btw, Burnley and Forest are bigger in "the modern game" than Southampton are they?
 


Wozza

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Jul 6, 2003
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Minteh Wonderland
Can someone tell me who he think's Hull's sugardaddy is?

I thought they got there from using the increased revenue from their new stadium. ???

Yeah, paid for by Hull City Council/Kingston Communications.

Hardly a natural climb to the Premier League.

Not that I'm defending 'Colly' here.
 




Scotty Mac

New member
Jul 13, 2003
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surely huddersfield should be in there - they won the league three seasons in a row dont you know
 


Yoda

English & European
Yeah, paid for by Hull City Council/Kingston Communications.

Hardly a natural climb to the Premier League.

Not that I'm defending 'Colly' here.

But he was implying someone had come in to the club and bankrolled it all personally like Madejski had at Reading. I still find it funny their decline started when he stepped aside.
 


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