[Politics] The General Election Thread

ManOfSussex · Oct 29, 2019

The Tories in Hastings & Rye are still yet to announce Amber Rudd's replacement. The Green Party will not be standing and the Brexit Party candidate has been moved to stand in Dagenham now he doesn't have the seat of a high profile remain cabinet minister to contest. The Lib Dems don't stand a chance, but it could come down to who ends up doing the best out of how many votes they end up taking off both Labour and the Tories. The Labour candidate did state when she resigned that he thought the profile of Rudd and the incumbent factor now not applying makes it easier to win though.

Thunder Bolt · Oct 29, 2019

CHAPPERS said:
Johnson looking at Sevenoaks

So are the Brexit Ltd lot. It would be funny if they split the vote.

Kinky Gerbil · Oct 29, 2019

No idea

You basically have a choice of Jazza or Boris.

Would you rather be shot or stabbed?

Bozza · Oct 29, 2019

bluenitsuj said:
I could never vote for Lloyd in a million years which does not leave a lot of choice to be honest. As you say, Labour and green is a wasted vote in Eastbourne.

I really don't believe any vote is wasted now.

Here in Findon we come under East Worthing and Shoreham for some reason. You'd have always said that is Tory through and through. However, here's how the Labour share of the vote has changed over recent elections:

2010: 16.7%
2015: 19.5%
2017: 39.3%

If people thought "a vote for Labour is wasted" in those previous elections, and put their X somewhere else, then we wouldn't have the position we have today where Labour could have a real chance (if they had a leader of any merit anyway).

Herr Tubthumper · Oct 29, 2019

Kinky Gerbils said:
No idea

You basically have a choice of Jazza or Boris.

Would you rather be shot or stabbed?

Shot.

pb21 · Oct 29, 2019

Is anyone going to base their vote primarily around anything other than the Brexit issue?

Trufflehound · Oct 29, 2019

Bozza said:
Surprised to see [MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] indicating a vote for the Labour Party. It's almost as if he will vote for them regardless of their shambolic state (see also: [MENTION=409]Herr Tubthumper[/MENTION])

I find it more surprising that - according to the poll quoted above - 35% of the population is still gullible enough to believe the Tories are acting in their interest, despite all the deceit, downright lies and betrayal that has been shoved down everyone's throats unrelentingly for the past several years.

Actually, no. On reflection it isn't surprising at all... It just sums up the UK of late.

Shropshire Seagull · Oct 29, 2019

UK politics fast becoming the comedy show [all parties] for mainland Europe.
UK = unable to make its's mind up on stay or leave, red or blue.
Shirley the outcome of such a diverse dichotomy of population that now makes up the UK

And the democracy? What democracy, the people vote one way [close] but members of parliament want it their way.

Utter tosh !!

#UKlaughingstock

Bulldog · Oct 29, 2019

pb21 said:
Is anyone going to base their vote primarily around anything other than the Brexit issue?

All mixed in the same stew pot I'm afraid, cant separate it.

LlcoolJ · Oct 29, 2019

Bozza said:
I really don't believe any vote is wasted now.

It is where I live! Labour got 60% of the vote in 2017.

If I lived a few streets away then it would be different as it will be pretty close between Lib Dems and Labour (I think the Lib Dems will retake the seat) but as it is, I may as well not bother (I will of course).

Stupid voting system.

Pretty pink fairy · Oct 29, 2019

Lower West Stander said:
Some very promising comments on here.

Lib Dems for me as a remainer I think. Can't vote for the extreme of either mainstream party.

Oh deary me they couldn't come any more extreme than jo Swinson and the Lib Dems :dunce:

Regards
DJ

LlcoolJ · Oct 29, 2019

GT49er said:
Presumably UKIP will be fielding candidates too - neither will win the election, but ridiculous to stick them in with 'other'.

Do UKIP still exist as anything other than a laughing stock? I don't even know which racist / sexist / bigot (delete as appropriate when they are sacked for one or more) is in charge now. :lolol:

Kinky Gerbil · Oct 29, 2019

Herr Tubthumper said:
Shot.

A vote for Boris from HT

Bozza · Oct 29, 2019

Trufflehound said:
I find it more surprising that - according to the poll quoted above - 35% of the population is still gullible enough to believe the Tories are acting in their interest, despite all the deceit, downright lies and betrayal that has been shoved down everyone's throats unrelentingly for the past several years.

Actually, no. On reflection it isn't surprising at all... It just sums up the UK of late.

Whilst I could never vote for the Conservative Party in its current guise, I don't think it's surprising in the slightest that many would. If you're of the "leave means leave" inclination, then Boris Johnson is your man, isn't he? I'm not sure it's any more complicated than that.

pb21 · Oct 29, 2019

LlcoolJ said:
It is where I live! Labour got 60% of the vote in 2017.

If I lived a few streets away then it would be different as it will be pretty close between Lib Dems and Labour (I think the Lib Dems will retake the seat) but as it is, I may as well not bother (I will of course).

Stupid voting system.

Tories got ~60% in Mid-Sussex, next best is ~25%.

My vote is effectively of no value.

maltaseagull · Oct 29, 2019

midnight_rendezvous said:
Heart says Green but head says Labour. I dread to think how much misery another 5 years of Tory austerity will bring.

I cannot vote having been non resident for over 15 years but not sure if I get this accusation.

"Mr Johnson’s spending plans appear to add up to much more than £27bn. He has pledged a hospital-building programme; a new railway line to link northern cities; a £3.6bn fund for deprived towns; and a*plan to fix the crisis in social care."

Austerity*:
A difficult economic situation caused by a government reducing the amount of money it spends.

Edit.
If I could vote, I would probably vote green.

Tories-look after the wealthy too much.
Labour-don't seem to have a policy on anything other than nationalisation.
Lib Dem - Buch of hypoctites ignoring the result of a legal referendum and should be forced to remove democrat from their name.

Bozza · Oct 29, 2019

LlcoolJ said:
It is where I live! Labour got 60% of the vote in 2017.

If I lived a few streets away then it would be different as it will be pretty close between Lib Dems and Labour (I think the Lib Dems will retake the seat) but as it is, I may as well not bother (I will of course).

Stupid voting system.

pb21 said:
Tories got ~60% in Mid-Sussex, next best is ~25%.

My vote is effectively of no value.

As I tried to explain, if everyone though that there would be no change.

Now, maybe voting Liberal Democrat will not see them win this time, but if everyone who would like to vote Liberal Democrat actually did, then the gap may narrow and, next time, they may have a real chance.

That's why I don't believe any vote is wasted.

Pretty pink fairy · Oct 29, 2019

Trufflehound said:
I find it more surprising that - according to the poll quoted above - 35% of the population is still gullible enough to believe the Tories are acting in their interest, despite all the deceit, downright lies and betrayal that has been shoved down everyone's throats unrelentingly for the past several years.

Actually, no. On reflection it isn't surprising at all... It just sums up the UK of late.

Time to wake up and smell the coffee
Regards
DF

Lincoln Imp · Oct 29, 2019

Bozza said:
As I tried to explain, if everyone though that there would be no change.

Now, maybe voting Liberal Democrat will not see them win this time, but if everyone who would like to vote Liberal Democrat actually did, then the gap may narrow and, next time, they may have a real chance.

That's why I don't believe any vote is wasted.

I did once read that the LibDems would be the country's leading party if enough people thought they could be the country's leading party.

Tom Hark Preston Park · Oct 29, 2019

Dominic Cummings is playing parliament like a fiddle

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