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QPR - now relegated, will they have to pay their FFP fine?
- Thread starter Marty___Mcfly
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The Football League is (I presume) some sort of members club, and they make their own rules and have the final say. You can't just have clubs taking them to court where we don't know who is in each division. The FL could just refuse QPR entry and then the season starts with them not in it, and I can't see how else it would work, as it's the FL rules.
Just like which club got relegated from the Championship - if it had been Rotherham, are we suggesting they could have taken it to court, and we'd have started next season with an extra club in the division while we waited for the court case? And what if it had been Brighton relegated, could we have taken them to court for not being able to replay our game with Rotherham?
BBassic
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They should have to pay the fine in full but the FL will bottle it. They'll arrange some sort of payment plan, QPR will use their parachute payments to continue paying their mercenaries unsustainable wages and the whole FFP farce will be shown up for what it is: toothless.
KZNSeagull
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Interesting, thanks. Is the wage cap at 52m not part of FFP though, or was it a separate regulation that the PL drew up alongside FFP? To me the fact that only 3 clubs made a loss in that season shows a signal of intent that they do want to get their house in order (well most anyway) which I doubt would have happened without FFP.
Indeed re the Championship and the gap with the PL is only going to get bigger.
QPR have announced this morning that they are taking legal proceedings to challenge the FFP rule.
Football League should simply set a date, like 2nd week of June, and QPR have to have settled by then, or they will not be allowed in the League next year, and the league will inform each club that's to be promoted a division. For example, each team that lose the play off final will be promoted. QPR will of course be allowed to continue a lengthy court case, but in the meantime, they will not be playing in the league. See what QPR think about that.
Not that simple once the legal system gets involved. The league will probably bottle it - it would be likely to cost loads of money in legal fees, and chaos would be caused by not being able to bring out the fixture lists on time.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
I hope they win.
Which would mean that FFP would officially fall apart for all, instead of some clubs religiously sticking to it, and others intent on busting it.
I think you're guessing (as am I) and I don't think you're right. The legal process means nothing until it's finished. If QPR are kicked out, then presumably the place is given to someone else, and that other team needs to be told.
The rules are the rules, and while QPR can challenge them, the League has to get on with things in the meantime.
Negotiations have been taking place since October. Fernandes has been very bullish about their chances of staying up, and has employed very expensive lawyers to fight his case as he doesn't want to give £58 million to charity.
yxee
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Negotiations on what? They failed FFP, they did exactly the opposite of what the FFP was designed to do, there can be absolutely no legal case for it.
Chuck them out of the league, the cheats.
Chuck them out of the league, the cheats.
Silverhatch
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And what about the threat of legal action from the clubs who missed out because QPR flouted the rules?
Official Old Man
Uckfield Seagull
Is there a 50% discount if paid within 30 days?
Not sure but I can't remember the League or FA being challenged in court and losing. The League is a members only organization (used to be top 2 divisions full, members and lower, associates , may have changed) Anyway all the articles of association etc are voted on and agreed. If a club steps out of the agreed rules they are subjected to penalties again agreed. QPR have done this plain and simple, there's no restriction of trade, they can continue as a football club but not in the League unless they pay the fine. The League just doesn't have a case to answer it's open and shut.
If I was Bloom I'd seriously consider letting the League know that Brighton will refuse to play QPR unless the full fine is paid, I'm sure he'll get the backing of all the others who have taken FFP seriously. Time to stand up to these tossers.
If I was Bloom I'd seriously consider letting the League know that Brighton will refuse to play QPR unless the full fine is paid, I'm sure he'll get the backing of all the others who have taken FFP seriously. Time to stand up to these tossers.
BBassic
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I'm not up on employment law but I don't think the FL would be able to, effectively, terminate the contracts of employed professionals owing to the behaviour of their employer. I'd imagine there would be monumental legal strife for the FL if they went that route.
EDIT - That's not to mention the other non-playing staff they employ.
I think it will be a minimal fine 5/10 million and banned from making transfers in Jan, they won't be banned from the summer window as they have no players left.
They won't be able to do anything as I imagine forest will sue the league
They won't be chucked out the league, nor will there be a fine over 10 million
They won't be able to do anything as I imagine forest will sue the league
They won't be chucked out the league, nor will there be a fine over 10 million
But they would not be terminating anyone's contract. QPR could still be a football club just not a member of the Football League. Perhaps the Scottish would like them.
Whys that? They broke the rules and the consequences are well known, there's not any leeway. If they attempted to alter it, it would need an EGM I'd imagine to get the other clubs to agree to the changes.
Because the football league are utterly gutless.
They will try and keep everyone happy, by doing that the only people that will be happy are QPR