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Numerous people in this thread, who seem to think the North is the same as every other stand despite being behind the goal, being allowed to stand and having a self delcared ultra group (cringe) Just isn't true though. How many times have people complained about the away end sucking the ball...

About three separate groups actually. And they try by all intentionally singing over each other for some reason.

Why is the North stand the only stand where mass standing is permitted? If you don't have a job to do then sit down like everyone else.

The two different groups singing separate chants at the same time is an utter joke and always has been. The way that basically every stadium in the world works is that there is a singing section that starts chants and other stands join in. Essentially a conductor and an orchestra. The North...

If that's decent I'm terrified about what bad sounds like

Someone tell our players we play in blue and white

Away fans have been as bad as any I've seen at the Amex so far. Between that and a really flat game so far it makes for a shit atmosphere.

I'm looking forward to the two sides of the North stand singing completely different songs at the same time, making it impossible to build any sort of atmosphere 👍

If you're not watching already get it on now. The last 15 minutes of extra time are coming up with Fluminese leading Boca 2-1. Both teams are down to 10.

Many children drown in the sea each year. Should we ban swimming? Or is Children dying horribly acceptable to you?

More than half a death a year? Again, that risk argument works better against so many other things than fireworks.

Anyone saying ban them needs to give this some actual thought. Most arguments against fireworks can also be made equally effectively against booze, motorbikes, football matches, many dog breeds, the celebration of Christmas, casual sex, swimming in the sea or basically anything that's fun...

Not a bad day at the office all things considered. But I'm still glad I went back to bed this morning rather than making the long trip up to Liverpool.

Stream off

Everton look capable to be fair but we are dropping too many performances like this. It's starting to look like we've been figured out a bit. We need a plan B

Bleak viewing so far. I decided against going at 6 this morning so I expected us to batter them because I wasn't there! I really think we lack a plan B under De Zerbi. Shades of Potter about this performance.

Is anyone else on the 18:25 Easyjet flight from Luton to Amsterdam on the 8th? I can't remember the name of our hotel off the top of my head but I can recall it had two whole stars...

Almost exactly 300 left. Will we sell out?

Are you for real, what affray? I'm not sure a single punch was thrown in the whole incident maybe a little bit of shoving, if that. I don't think the Police have enough manpower to carry out dawn raids to arrest teenagers for swearing in the general direction of Dutch hooligans. And any...

People mocking our own supporters for essentially defending themselves is something that bothers me.