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my conclusion of mind control [in this instance] comes from research upon mind control, and research into problem, reaction, solution. i have no desire to pitch fork things into any preconceptions, and preconceptions are things i steer away from. have you actially watched the docu yet?

read the thread again, and you will see i state very clearly it is my free will opinion (e.g belief) from my perspective. i have even said my theory cannot be proved, but more weight can go into it when the gun laws change. in this i find no delusion, i have researched mind control, spoke to...

not.

it's ok, you can sit happy that some guy, with no personality traits, or history of this sort of thing, just decided to somehow get into a fire exit that was left open (research the witnesses), and shoot lots of people for no reason, then turn up in court looking completely dazed and...

i dont think the world is out to get me at all, i am extremely well grounded, and i see no doom no the horizon, all is perfect harmony no matter what manifests..........you are just spouting off words that the sun newspaper wants you to think CT's are like....heheh.

and if we blindly accept the official MSM line, we have chaos. But they have done it before....JFK, John Lennon, and a host of others...... sometimes, one does not need evidence to create a theory, just join the dots.... dot 1 - mass shootings before a gun law review. dot 2 - people owniing...

i understand how these views exist. ok, look at the BHA badge (symbol), as soon as you see it it stokes up tons of feelings and images in the mind. If you just saw the text "brighton and hove albion" somewhere it has hardly the same effect. i don't want to get off topic, but i can assure...

ok, read Neomi Klein's 'No Logo' book.

well, of course, this is a debate of opinions, i believe (as i said earlier) - it has the hallmarks of a mind control shooting - i have no hard proof, save for the symbolism and repeated meme - the proof would really come when the gun law is passed. this is called LOGIC.

to understand this one needs to look at the esoteric. simply put, symbols gather, store, hold, and give energy.......a phone call or email has no where near the same affect a symbol can have.

the evidence will be when the law is passed.......seems like we all need to wait, then bump the thread.

what is "the real world" nibble - enlighten us. is it one where just by chance a man shoots lots of people just before gun laws are set to be reviewed, one where the shooter worked in nueroscience, and turned up in court looking drugged to the eyeballs?

Nibble, you seem to put academia and intellect high on the lifes goals list.....for me, they both sit well below balance and intuition. i learned alot about you in that post. if you think i research stuff to fill a whole in development, i think you would be massively suprised if you actually...

err, yes....tons of ads and billboards have subliminal symbolism 90 degrees or 180 degrees, or really faint - the conscious mind cannot see it, but the subconcsious can. when one grabs a bottle of coke, they don't study the shape of the bottle or the artwork, but the subconscious slurps it all...

a difference of opinions and views on a world event and people start accusing people of not being able to hold jobs down or making their way in the world, now that, is complete madness. get a grip people and stay on topic. insults and making out you lead a "better" life is a very bad...

and what is your version of "making it in the world" - i am very interested.

symbolism is pretty much how the human sub conscious works, look into marketing to see how much they put into hidden symbolism. to disregard symbols is to shut off so much. well, your the one sitting at a desk, and waiting for "breaks" - seems silly to tell me i am wasting my life....lol.

how do you know i look at one source? you don't. i have covered hours of research on mkultra and mind control....over years too. also, i am flattered that while you sit at your desk, when you have a break, you don't think of your lover, friends, your place in the world, you think of me. i...

I am no expert in mind control, but i have met people who are and spoken to them at length - i am not going to call him up, get him to join nsc and post am i? you call any source that is not MSM nutjobs - so it makes it pointless you being in this thread, surely.....goto the bbc for your info...

wow, do you really think the dollar is going to survive another 10 or 15 years....hehehe......some people are really going to wake up to a big suprise one of these days.