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Why would they? The Daily Mail would have absolutely no reason to state they had already spent all that time inside as it would count against their own narrative spin (that they are getting away with it because they are Muslim). We just don't know - and you are assuming that they didn't spend...

So you believe Bassam is plain wrong when he says: "The car park is essential for the the expanded stadium capacity." Just because reading that has made me nervous...

Sorry, I still don't see why you use the word "minority" there as I don't see anywhere that says the girls in this attack weren't initially remanded in custody prior to trial. It certainly doesn't say that in the Mail article. Anyway, regarding Emma West - the BBC has now also reported that the...

That can't be held against it - the original Mail article that started this thread wasn't a directly quoting from the Court transcript either...

Out of interest, where are you seeing that they weren't remanded in custody prior to the trial? But anyway, why do I think they weren't remanded (if they weren't)? I guess there are four possibilities: 1) Because the judge thought the crime was less serious 2) Just happened to be a more lenient...

The assault is clearly the more serious offence. I have no idea why you think this is relevant though; being remanded in custody awaiting trial is not the same as having been sentenced to a jail term after trial. It smacks of desperation that you'd to try to compare the two. If Emma West is...

And there we have one: a good old "if it was the other way round..." argument with absolutely nothing to support it except personal opinion. "They would say that, wouldn't they?". Yeah, they might say that even if it didn't happen. They would definitely say it if it did happen. I don't know if...

Nope, of course they're not. The attack was disgusting. I guess - in addition to my instinctive distrust of the Mail (only enhanced by McCullan last week, but that's a separate issue) - if they were racially abused themselves then while this is a disgusting attack, it isn't a "racist" one, in...

The same midfield that seemed (to me at least) to struggle much more without Harley v Forest? Or a different one?

If you're going to "get this straight", I suggest you read all sides of the story. Both sides claimed they were racially abused first (the defendants by the boyfriend). I do agree they should have gone to jail if what the Mail say is true - but as above, other newspapers have more details and...

I don't want to be cynical either - and if the details are accurate then I do agree the group should have gone to jail - however I can't help but notice that the Mail blames the fact the sentence was suspended on their religion when the actual quote from the judge says no such thing - in fact...

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There is one for sale on ebay here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NIKE-DRI-FIT-WICK-FC-SHORT-SLEEVE-SOCCER-FOOTBALL-JERSEY-MENS-X-LARGE-/360402759549?pt=US_Soccer_Fan_Shop&hash=item53e9adaf7d#ht_500wt_693 You could e-mail the seller (or any of the bidders, I guess) and ask them if they'd be so kind...

Absolutely loved it - though can't help but think it would have been even better had I known nothing about it before watching - still hard to believe a show was about that but if it was a complete surprise it would have really stunned me. I guess what I'm saying is...... if you haven't seen it...

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Hi mikeyjh - have only just spotted this post. Didn't mean to copy you when posting the link - sorry!

Every time we have kicked off at 3pm on a Saturday at the Amex we have scored exactly 2 goals. Obviously this record will continue forever, so Albion 2 - 0 Forest for me

Time to bring this one out again?

Amazing advert, and amazing reponse to complaints: “I don’t think apologising is Nando’s style" Full article: http://www.zimeye.org/?p=40940 Straight to the advert:

It's happened; in 2003 we needed you to beat Stoke for us so we could take survival to the last game - still the only time I've celebrated a Palace goal. Of course we then failed on the last day anyway...