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  1. Creaky

    Calais

    Ignoring the legalities of such a move then blockading the North African Coast would stop the trans-Mediterranean route but that does nothing to reduce the number of refugees - and is in any case a tiny proportion of the total number. Looking at Syria alone then according to the UN there are 9...
  2. Creaky

    Calais

    Sorry but you only have to go through this thread to find examples of them being portrayed as 'wicked and threatening', (the definition of demonise). The only real answer to the problem is to take steps that will stop people wanting to leave their birth places - that will never be achieved via...
  3. Creaky

    Calais

    But if either the asylum seeker refused to be moved and/or the third country refused them entry then it would be illegal under international law for the move to take place. I agree that it would be ideal if ALL countries agreed a strategy to deal with the problem but of course if such an...
  4. Creaky

    Calais

    How would that work - once given right of residence in any country in the EU then they could travel to where they liked. If the EU tried to send them to non-EU countries then this would only work if the other countries accepted them AND the aylum seekers were willing to go.
  5. Creaky

    Calais

    Totally agree - as I posted earlier I don't know what the solution is - either in practical terms or humanitarian ones. What I do believe though is that there is absolutely no point in demonising those who are trying to enter the EU or the UK. The individuals in Calais are not the real...
  6. Creaky

    Calais

    Why not quote this bit from the same article? ??? "A Serco spokesman insisted the use of hotels was a short-term measure and did not cost taxpayers any extra."
  7. Creaky

    Calais

    Greedy may be an apt description - after all the prospect of living in the UK may well instill a desire for more than the nothing they currently have. Having little thought for those they effect? - as I posted earlier, worry about the effect on those who already have infinitely more than they...
  8. Creaky

    Calais

    You and I are both looking at the situation from our point of view as citizens of the UK. I guess it requires a bit of thought and empathy to put youself in the position of those in Calais. Having travelled hundreds, probably thousands of miles, facing numerous hardships and in many cases...
  9. Creaky

    Calais

    The whole situation is a complete mess and I can't see a solution without genuine cooperation and funding between the EU countries. I do believe that we should accept genuine refugees, (despite government promises we have still not accepted our share of the 2 million Syrian refugees), but if we...
  10. Creaky

    Calais

    The method of entry may be illegal but the UN Protocol protects them from being penalised for their method of entry IF they then claim asylum at the first oppertunity. The problem is of course that if they are discovered whilst still on the lorry or train on arrival in the UK they will then...
  11. Creaky

    Calais

    NO - They COULD claim asylum in France and if they each the UK they CAN claim asylum here - a refugee can make an asylum application in ANY country they reach.
  12. Creaky

    Calais

    The obligation is on the first safe country NOT on the refugee. That is why if the refugee reaches a third country then that third country can request the first one to assess the asylum application.
  13. Creaky

    Calais

    A refugee is entitled to make an asylum request in any country they have entered, (by whatever means) - that country can however legally return that individual to a 'safe country' that they have previously passed through for the asylum request to be assessed - remembering of course that the UN...
  14. Creaky

    Calais

    If a refugee enters the UK by whatever means and claims asylum then under international law they can not be prosecuted for their method of entry. So the question of whether entry was legal or illegal is a moot point. There also seems to be a general misunderstanding of international law...
  15. Creaky

    Calais

    Isn't that 'solution' a red herring. Once an individual is granted leave to stay in an EU country they are then free to move wherever they wish within the EU, including the UK. ??? The same applies to the idea of the French processing those in Calais. If they decided to grant them leave to...
  16. Creaky

    Calais

    We are sixth in terms of absolute numbers but just 16th out of 28 in terms of numbers per head of population.
  17. Creaky

    Calais

    Why should, (or more importantly would), countries like Libya accept them back? ???
  18. Creaky

    Consumer help please - Online purchase

    You could argue that the goods delivered weren't what you ordered - i.e. size 12 not size 11. In which case under the Consumer Contracts Regulations you should be refunded the cost of returning them. The Consumer Contracts Regulations apply throughout the EU but your problem is it is really...
  19. Creaky

    Why isn't the message getting through, driving whilst using a mobile phone is dangerous

    http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/2014/7/21/mobile-phone-distraction-set-to-become-biggest-killer-on-british-roads-by-2015/53049/
  20. Creaky

    Why isn't the message getting through, driving whilst using a mobile phone is dangerous

    Policing a 'law' is only one part - the vast majority of people are law abiding and would comply with a ban. France has banned the use of hands free phones which use an 'ear bud' or other form of headphone.

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