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.....and this bemusing fact alone could form the basis of the fans desire to see him pushed out. Pmac came on, played his socks off, helped create a simple tap in chance, only to have his enthusiasm clubbed out of him when nobody arrived to meet his cross.......they were all floating about...

Hey, but we are all Europeans now, this money is simply helping those of our fellow citizens that cant or wont help themselves,... a bit like our much lauded Welfare State.

Count me in again, enjoyed the last one....

You carry on with party politics mate, I look at the figures and come to my own conclusions. Our economy is still rated as a safe bet for investment, our borrowing rate is still only 2% for govt bonds. The entire worlds debt mountain is precarious, but as it stands, ours is stable..... 1.4...

.....and still the deficit has reduced.......

Hilarious.....in the first paragraph you trot out a series of predictive statements as fact about what would have happened to the economy.....then in the second para you put in an unconvincing fact versus opinion disclaimer......must try harder.

Dress it up how you like, with straw clutching caveats and political bias,.... it all still adds up to a reducing budget deficit.

I don't care who would have done better, I was responding to deficit comment, I think a reduction is a reduction, one third reduction is not bad given the economic conditions.

The last 5 years are from 2009 ish.. This years is forecast at 93.7bn In 2009/10 it reached a peak at 167bn http://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/net-borrowing-96-12-600x531.png

But the deficit IS 33% less than it was 5 years ago......simple facts,....I don't deal in rhetoric like you.......

......do you mean the figures that clearly show that the deficit has reduced by a third over the last 5 years?

15-17k......bums on seats.....

I think that a GAP analysis is needed first.

The North stand has got to do the big arrow show on Saturday........its a must.

If you think either of those two fools are a worthy example of individuals to take your life's direction from, then there really is no hope. I would have though at the very least, that a modest mastery of your mother tongue would be a prerequisite to icon status.

Boro had two, they got two goals.

I think he may go after Saturday actually on reflection, I originally gave him until end of November, but I think the club will see a poor performance again ( I dont want it to be, 300 mile round trip and all that)...... plus I think the bums on seats attendance will be much less than 20k...

I dont want him fighting to resurrect his career at the expense of any tangible changes and improvements at our club.

Brilliant, ..... so how is blind faith in a failing system going to help improve on that impotent performance we saw yesterday?

End of Nov......if we are not mid table, they will bin him, and hopefully that Welsh fool......we need to move on.........they won't want this continuing until February when the ST renewals are due.