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Seems to be Fenerbahce holding out, not silly agent games. We don't know the details but we've often held out for more money when selling. The question is whether they're moving the goalposts or not.

If we're being honest, only Verbruggen, Kadioglu, Rutter and Estupiñan would start ahead of today's team. But yes the depth we have (or will do assuming the signings go through) is fantastic.

Hinshelwood is too young to be playing week in week out. We tried that last season and he got stress injuries. We need a first choice RB who can rotate with Jack when needed. Lamptey is too injury prone, Veltman is not suited to the wingback role.

They're down to just Ashley Young at right back? Get the ball to Mitoma and Barco!

I like the clubs graphic design for this season much better than last year's efforts.

We definitely seem to have clubs that we have strong loan relationships with. Blackburn, Northampton, Stoke, West Brom.

It's the 'ğ' which is sort of like an English 'w' but further in the back of the throat. Also 'ı' not 'i' which is more like the 'er' in 'perfect' Kad-euh-ow-lu

Pre Madonna instead of prima donna Is my favourite mishearing. Paints the image of a Madonna egg before she's hatched or something.

Nor Sanchez. Principally from the sales of Cucurella, Trossard and Mac Allister.

Mitoma i reckon not until next summer. Mitoma out, then Adingra first choice, with Osman backup.

If Gruda is coming in, then it's Gruda, Enciso, Sarmiento, Ayari and eventually Gomez fighting for the more attacking of the midfield roles. Surely means Sarmiento and/or Ayari due for another loan?

Certainly in the frame for it.

Can we infer from that that Sarmiento and Ayari are staying do we reckon? Or it's just partial information?

He was a mainstay at Liege, wasn't he? But maybe as a London boy he wants to try his best to get back to the PL.

There's many different ways of being socially inept. I've known some very extroverted people who can't help but bulldoze others in social situations or be extremely antagonistic or unempathetic with no awareness of what they're doing or the impact of that. But yes it was worded harshly I'll admit.

Football is full of socially inept absolute weirdos. The more stories that come out about RdZ the more he seems like another one.

He wasn't particularly impressive before that either. The game tended to pass him by and he seemed a bit... well, lazy.

Getting 6th place and European football for the first time in our history did nothing to stop the whingebags on here!

Those who have decided their online persona is going to be "contrarian and antagonistic" at all costs, should have the common courtesy of at least being funny.

Ah well I've had some beers and my ability to understand nuance is out the window