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[Albion] Away enders at SJP: did you realise Gordon had been sent off?



jackalbion

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Watching on the TV, I was immediately confident that Danny’s gem wouldstand
i was also convinced that Schar was offside from the start before there was a review.
Yes it is a bit tedious, but for me VAR worked yesterday.
It was interesting to hear the referee speak in the stadium for the first time. I thought they were announcing a registration of a car blocking someone in or something :lolol:
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
If one takes the Albion hat off and looks at the Schar "goal", it is exactly the sort of thing that I hate VAR for - that would have been given as a goal for 120 years prior to VAR without a single hint of controversy. That wasnt what VAR was brought in for and it boils my urine when these moments are overturned due to microscopic analysis - FFS the game was fine for 120 years prior to VAR , the goal was a belter , - kneecap, toecap, shoulder, where the player is mostly level to the naked eye is NOT what I want goals disallowed for. Of course, under these circumstances, it worked out well ;-) but Im talking about in general.
The TV commentary honed in on Schar, whose shoulders and head were ahead of our defender, but there were three Newcastle players actually offside when the free kick was taken. It really wasn't microscopic.
It was also the semi automated offside technology being used for the first time.

 


Hotchilidog

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Jan 24, 2009
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If one takes the Albion hat off and looks at the Schar "goal", it is exactly the sort of thing that I hate VAR for - that would have been given as a goal for 120 years prior to VAR without a single hint of controversy. That wasnt what VAR was brought in for and it boils my urine when these moments are overturned due to microscopic analysis - FFS the game was fine for 120 years prior to VAR , the goal was a belter , - kneecap, toecap, shoulder, where the player is mostly level to the naked eye is NOT what I want goals disallowed for. Of course, under these circumstances, it worked out well ;-) but Im talking about in general.
I broadly agree with your point about microscopic offsides, but there were multiple Newcastle players clearly offside when the kick was taken. It really wasn't a controversial ruling. The timing of it obviously added drama to it, but it was objectively an offside.
 


slartibartfast

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Sep 11, 2004
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Henfield
I broadly agree with your point about microscopic offsides, but there were multiple Newcastle players clearly offside when the kick was taken. It really wasn't a controversial ruling. The timing of it obviously added drama to it, but it was objectively an offside.
Im talking about the player - any player - who belts in a goal like that, last minute, and the fact that something that nobody noticed in real time is fractionally off rules it out. I get your point about the other players (who in the modern era, were not actively interfering , so are a red herring - though if you take my 120 year argument, of course they would have been flagged offside back in the day).
My point is the ridiculous monster that this nitpicking VAR has become - a charter for ruling out great moments.

It worked for the Albion this time out, of course, but Im still smarting about Mac Allister's worldy against Leicester back in 2023 - that was another example.
 


slartibartfast

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Sep 11, 2004
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Henfield
Im talking about the player - any player - who belts in a goal like that, last minute, and the fact that something that nobody noticed in real time is fractionally off rules it out. I get your point about the other players (who in the modern era, were not actively interfering , so are a red herring - though if you take my 120 year argument, of course they would have been flagged offside back in the day).
My point is the ridiculous monster that this nitpicking VAR has become - a charter for ruling out great moments.

It worked for the Albion this time out, of course, but Im still smarting about Mac Allister's worldy against Leicester back in 2023 - that was another example.
Ditto Coventry City's winner in last seasons FA Cup Semi Final.....(many examples exist)
 




Hotchilidog

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Jan 24, 2009
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Im talking about the player - any player - who belts in a goal like that, last minute, and the fact that something that nobody noticed in real time is fractionally off rules it out. I get your point about the other players (who in the modern era, were not actively interfering , so are a red herring - though if you take my 120 year argument, of course they would have been flagged offside back in the day).
My point is the ridiculous monster that this nitpicking VAR has become - a charter for ruling out great moments.

It worked for the Albion this time out, of course, but Im still smarting about Mac Allister's worldy against Leicester back in 2023 - that was another example.
I definitely hear that!
 


Happy Exile

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You can see it in the clip, but confirmed looking at this that it's Dan Burn blocking Wieffer that led to Schar being offisde. Without Burn in the way Wieffer would have played him on.

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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Im talking about the player - any player - who belts in a goal like that, last minute, and the fact that something that nobody noticed in real time is fractionally off rules it out. I get your point about the other players (who in the modern era, were not actively interfering , so are a red herring - though if you take my 120 year argument, of course they would have been flagged offside back in the day).
My point is the ridiculous monster that this nitpicking VAR has become - a charter for ruling out great moments.

It worked for the Albion this time out, of course, but Im still smarting about Mac Allister's worldy against Leicester back in 2023 - that was another example.
The lino did flag it, and the semi automatic technology checked it. I was watching on tv and shouted offside before it was checked.

I take your point about VAR and nit picking but Schar's offside shot wasn't one of them.
 








Jeremiah

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No, I didn’t either until he walked off and neither did people around me. It was a bit disappointing not being able to wave him goodbye. Mind you, I missed the emotion of the winning goal as well: I was convinced it was offside and was going to be overturned by VAR.
Same here watching on TV. Convinced he was way offside as the screen didn't show the Newcastle player not keeping the line
 




Thunder Bolt

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Did he really flag it? No-one on the TV or radio commentary said that, they all thought it was a good goal
I thought they did and without going back to the programme, I cannot now say, 100%, they did. Unfortunately, I haven't go the time to check atm.
 




Thunder Bolt

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Guinness Boy

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You can see it in the clip, but confirmed looking at this that it's Dan Burn blocking Wieffer that led to Schar being offisde. Without Burn in the way Wieffer would have played him on.

GlDFdnJXkAA2EvZ
When it's Dave Gilmour and Nick Mason on VAR.....
 




dazzer6666

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You can see it in the clip, but confirmed looking at this that it's Dan Burn blocking Wieffer that led to Schar being offisde. Without Burn in the way Wieffer would have played him on.

GlDFdnJXkAA2EvZ
First Webster and then JPVH pushed Schar into an offside position and he didn't come back far enough :smile:
 




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